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It looks like Wegmans, my favorite grocery store, isn't included in their data at all? I searched for at least 2 counties I know have one and it wasn't include

It looks like Wegmans, my favorite grocery store, isn't included in their data at all? I searched for at least 2 counties I know have one and it wasn't included in their results. That seems like a pretty big over sight given their presence in 9 states and almost 200 locations. They did have the Pittsburgh based Giant Eagle but lacked many of the smaller chains in the area like Sparkle Markets: https://www.sparklemarkets.com/ https://www.sparklemarkets.com/ Very cool project though. Wonder if there's any chance they'll open source their data.

lilbobbytables 2y ago
Wegmans is the best. They do show it in their home - Rochester, NY area.
- williamcotton 2y ago
  Livingston County, NY, just south of Rochester, reported “too little data”, so perhaps their metrics are misreported in general for Wegmans to have shown up in their analysis.
detourdog 2y ago
Wegmans is probably too regional for the point they are trying to make. We used to be the Hudson news of central Pennsylvania and it was exciting watching Wegmans move into our region. They were as great partner.
- CSMastermind 2y ago
  The exclusion of it seems to undermine their point? They use a questionable method they use for their "Top Five Grocers by U.S. market share." which seems to be using fiscal year end sales for Walmart even though they sell more than food but only counting Whole Foods revenue for Amazon even though it obviously sells food through its main website. If you correct for very obvious problems with the data source in their marketshare picture like limiting Walmart/Sam's Club to food sales and including Amazon's online food sales Walmart has about 18% of the market in the US and Amazon has about 11%. It's weird that they use store count sourced through OpenStreetMap most of the article than in the graphic just kind of switch to a totally different source based on revenue? But using that questionable method Wegman's would be the 13th largest chain right behind Trader Joe's which they do list and well above many of the chains in their dataset. I have to imagine it's not an intentional exclusion just poor data collection? Also why is Giant Eagle colored the same color as Ahold Delhaize on the map?
  - philwelch 2y ago
    > The exclusion of it seems to undermine their point? I’m shocked, shocked, that a newspaper would exclude information that would undermine the editorial point it was making!
    - detourdog 2y ago
      This is sort of what I was thinking. I remember when Ahold bought out that family. That left Weis Markets as our last family owned regional chain.
  - terinjokes 2y ago
    > Also why is Giant Eagle colored the same color as Ahold Delhaize on the map? I had thought it was because Ahold Delhaize owned Giant, and they do. However, it turns out Giant Eagle is an entirely separate company, which makes the color pick even more confusing to me.
  - detourdog 2y ago
    I see what you are saying. The article has and agenda and they are using it. Traders Joe’s is also nationwide but lacks the density in most areas. I thinks Wegman’s focused on the Interstate 81 corridor for expansion.
- bluedino 2y ago
  Similar to Meijer in Michigan/Ohio/Indiana
  - maxerickson 2y ago
    Meijer is less common than Walmart in most areas it operates, and much of rural northern Michigan doesn't rate a superstore (vs the smaller grocery stores that SpartanNash operates).
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maxerickson 2y ago
They got the addresses from OpenStreetMap, so the data is party open already. They didn't necessarily omit those chains either, their criteria was "most common owner by area", and depending on how you decide the minimum size for an area, they could just naturally fall out.
- CSMastermind 2y ago
  I'm not talking about the map but the search by county feature on the page which shows many stores with significantly lower marketshare than Wegmans by any metric you want to use.

lilbobbytables 2y ago

Wegmans is the best. They do show it in their home - Rochester, NY area.

williamcotton 2y ago
Livingston County, NY, just south of Rochester, reported “too little data”, so perhaps their metrics are misreported in general for Wegmans to have shown up in their analysis.

detourdog 2y ago

Wegmans is probably too regional for the point they are trying to make. We used to be the Hudson news of central Pennsylvania and it was exciting watching Wegmans move into our region. They were as great partner.

CSMastermind 2y ago
The exclusion of it seems to undermine their point? They use a questionable method they use for their "Top Five Grocers by U.S. market share." which seems to be using fiscal year end sales for Walmart even though they sell more than food but only counting Whole Foods revenue for Amazon even though it obviously sells food through its main website. If you correct for very obvious problems with the data source in their marketshare picture like limiting Walmart/Sam's Club to food sales and including Amazon's online food sales Walmart has about 18% of the market in the US and Amazon has about 11%. It's weird that they use store count sourced through OpenStreetMap most of the article than in the graphic just kind of switch to a totally different source based on revenue? But using that questionable method Wegman's would be the 13th largest chain right behind Trader Joe's which they do list and well above many of the chains in their dataset. I have to imagine it's not an intentional exclusion just poor data collection? Also why is Giant Eagle colored the same color as Ahold Delhaize on the map?
- philwelch 2y ago
  > The exclusion of it seems to undermine their point? I’m shocked, shocked, that a newspaper would exclude information that would undermine the editorial point it was making!
  - detourdog 2y ago
    This is sort of what I was thinking. I remember when Ahold bought out that family. That left Weis Markets as our last family owned regional chain.
- terinjokes 2y ago
  > Also why is Giant Eagle colored the same color as Ahold Delhaize on the map? I had thought it was because Ahold Delhaize owned Giant, and they do. However, it turns out Giant Eagle is an entirely separate company, which makes the color pick even more confusing to me.
- detourdog 2y ago
  I see what you are saying. The article has and agenda and they are using it. Traders Joe’s is also nationwide but lacks the density in most areas. I thinks Wegman’s focused on the Interstate 81 corridor for expansion.
bluedino 2y ago
Similar to Meijer in Michigan/Ohio/Indiana
- maxerickson 2y ago
  Meijer is less common than Walmart in most areas it operates, and much of rural northern Michigan doesn't rate a superstore (vs the smaller grocery stores that SpartanNash operates).

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maxerickson 2y ago

They got the addresses from OpenStreetMap, so the data is party open already. They didn't necessarily omit those chains either, their criteria was "most common owner by area", and depending on how you decide the minimum size for an area, they could just naturally fall out.

CSMastermind 2y ago
I'm not talking about the map but the search by county feature on the page which shows many stores with significantly lower marketshare than Wegmans by any metric you want to use.