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Congrats. You brainwashed yourself into believing only certain class of people can run the country. Founding fathers would be proud.

onion2k 2y ago
I think it's fair to say the "why not inject yourself with bleach!" people shouldn't be running the show while there's a class of people who do what people tell them without questioning whether it's a good idea. People in power have a responsibility not to suggest things that would kill people. That isn't a high bar.
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- hshshshsvsv 2y ago
  This assumes people are stupid and have no intelligence of their own and needs to be told what they should be doing.
  - onion2k 2y ago
    Not quite. It assumes that some people don't verify what they're told, and so follow what people in authority tell them. That means people in authority have a responsibility not to abuse their authority. If everyone was rational and didn't do what they were told, choosing to verify everything and only follow what was appropriate, then the entire marketing, ad, government, legal, prison, etc industries would all collapse because they wouldn't be necessary any more. It's fairly obvious that there are people who follow dangerous, stupid advice.
    - hshshshsvsv 2y ago
      Okay. That's fair.
  - JKCalhoun 2y ago
    I'd prefer that the people elected to lead are smarter than I am.
- robotresearcher 2y ago
  You make a case against stupid and irresponsible people that I agree with completely. Entertainers are not necessarily these things. Just like lawyers - presidents are often lawyers - are not necessarily brilliant paragons.
mrkeen 2y ago
The founding fathers, not the founding parents. Those slave-owners held it self-evident that all men had the unalienable right of liberty (among other rights.) I can't remember 1984 well enough to remember any specific examples of doublethink, but they can't be as good as this one.
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- hshshshsvsv 2y ago
  > The founding fathers, not the founding parents. Sorry. Who among the founding fathers was women to call it parents? Founding fathers seems to be more accurate than founder Mothers or Founding parents.

onion2k 2y ago

I think it's fair to say the "why not inject yourself with bleach!" people shouldn't be running the show while there's a class of people who do what people tell them without questioning whether it's a good idea. People in power have a responsibility not to suggest things that would kill people. That isn't a high bar.

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hshshshsvsv 2y ago
This assumes people are stupid and have no intelligence of their own and needs to be told what they should be doing.
- onion2k 2y ago
  Not quite. It assumes that some people don't verify what they're told, and so follow what people in authority tell them. That means people in authority have a responsibility not to abuse their authority. If everyone was rational and didn't do what they were told, choosing to verify everything and only follow what was appropriate, then the entire marketing, ad, government, legal, prison, etc industries would all collapse because they wouldn't be necessary any more. It's fairly obvious that there are people who follow dangerous, stupid advice.
  - hshshshsvsv 2y ago
    Okay. That's fair.
- JKCalhoun 2y ago
  I'd prefer that the people elected to lead are smarter than I am.
robotresearcher 2y ago
You make a case against stupid and irresponsible people that I agree with completely. Entertainers are not necessarily these things. Just like lawyers - presidents are often lawyers - are not necessarily brilliant paragons.

mrkeen 2y ago

The founding fathers, not the founding parents. Those slave-owners held it self-evident that all men had the unalienable right of liberty (among other rights.) I can't remember 1984 well enough to remember any specific examples of doublethink, but they can't be as good as this one.

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hshshshsvsv 2y ago
> The founding fathers, not the founding parents. Sorry. Who among the founding fathers was women to call it parents? Founding fathers seems to be more accurate than founder Mothers or Founding parents.