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I doubt this is relevant for EM waves. Water waves are much more complicated because the wave speed in water is highly frequency dependent. That makes things mu

by rocqua 2y ago

I doubt this is relevant for EM waves. Water waves are much more complicated because the wave speed in water is highly frequency dependent. That makes things much harder to model. Whilst in optics (and thus EM) people have been reasoning in terms of wavefronts in 3d for about half a century. Look at a YouTube channel like Huygens optics to see what a former professional can easily do in his shed.

westurner 2y ago
Photon waves are EM waves and particles, by the Particle-Wave Duality. Photons behave like fluids in superfluids; "liquid light". Also, the paths of photons are affected by the media of transmission: gravity, gravitational waves, and water fluid waves bend light. Photonic transmission and retransmission occurs at least in part by phononic excitation of solids and fluids; but in the vacuum of space if there is no mass, how do quanta propagate? Optical rogue waves > Principles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_rogue_waves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_rogue_waves : > Supercontinuum generation with long pulses: Supercontinuum generation is a nonlinear process in which intense input light, usually pulsed, is broadened into a wideband spectrum. The broadening process can involve different pathways depending on the experimental conditions, yielding varying output properties. Especially large broadening factors can be realized by launching narrowband pump radiation (long pulses or continuous-wave radiation) into a nonlinear fiber at or near its zero-dispersion wavelength or in the anomalous dispersion regime. Such dispersive characteristics support modulation instability, which amplifies input noise and forms Stokes and anti-Stokes sidebands around the pump wavelength. This amplification process, manifested in the time domain as a growing modulation on the envelope of the input pulse, then leads to the generation of high-order solitons, which break apart into fundamental solitons and coupled dispersive radiation FWIU photonic superradiance is also due to critical condition(s). Re: Huygens and photons; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40492160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40492160 : >> This means that hard-to-measure optical properties such as amplitudes, phases and correlations—perhaps even these of quantum wave systems—can be deduced from something a lot easier to measure: light intensity [given Huygens' applied] TODO: remember the name of the photonic effect of self-convolution and nonlinearity and how the wave function interferes with itself in the interval [0,1.0] whereas EM waves are [-1,1] or log10 [-inf, inf]. Coherence, Wave diffraction vs. wave interference > Superposition principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle#Wave_diffraction_vs._wave_interference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle#Wave_d...

by rocqua 2y ago

westurner 2y ago

Photon waves are EM waves and particles, by the Particle-Wave Duality. Photons behave like fluids in superfluids; "liquid light". Also, the paths of photons are affected by the media of transmission: gravity, gravitational waves, and water fluid waves bend light. Photonic transmission and retransmission occurs at least in part by phononic excitation of solids and fluids; but in the vacuum of space if there is no mass, how do quanta propagate? Optical rogue waves > Principles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_rogue_waves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_rogue_waves : > Supercontinuum generation with long pulses: Supercontinuum generation is a nonlinear process in which intense input light, usually pulsed, is broadened into a wideband spectrum. The broadening process can involve different pathways depending on the experimental conditions, yielding varying output properties. Especially large broadening factors can be realized by launching narrowband pump radiation (long pulses or continuous-wave radiation) into a nonlinear fiber at or near its zero-dispersion wavelength or in the anomalous dispersion regime. Such dispersive characteristics support modulation instability, which amplifies input noise and forms Stokes and anti-Stokes sidebands around the pump wavelength. This amplification process, manifested in the time domain as a growing modulation on the envelope of the input pulse, then leads to the generation of high-order solitons, which break apart into fundamental solitons and coupled dispersive radiation FWIU photonic superradiance is also due to critical condition(s). Re: Huygens and photons; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40492160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40492160 : >> This means that hard-to-measure optical properties such as amplitudes, phases and correlations—perhaps even these of quantum wave systems—can be deduced from something a lot easier to measure: light intensity [given Huygens' applied] TODO: remember the name of the photonic effect of self-convolution and nonlinearity and how the wave function interferes with itself in the interval [0,1.0] whereas EM waves are [-1,1] or log10 [-inf, inf]. Coherence, Wave diffraction vs. wave interference > Superposition principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle#Wave_diffraction_vs._wave_interference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle#Wave_d...