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I love how people are like "there's no use case" and there's already products on shelves. I see AI art everywhere, AI writing, customer support - already happen
by bschmidt1 2y ago
I love how people are like "there's no use case" and there's already products on shelves. I see AI art everywhere, AI writing, customer support - already happened. You guys are naysaying something that already happened people already replaced jobs with LLMs and already profit due to AI. There are already startups with users where you provide a OPENAI_API_KEY, or customers where you provide theirs.
If you can't see how this tech is useful Idk what to tell you, you have no imagination AND aren't looking around you at the products, marketing, etc. that already exists. These takes remind me of the luddites of ~2012 who were still doubting the Internet in general.
- anon7725 2y agoThere is a difference between “being useful” and living up to galactic-scale hype.
- bschmidt1 2y ago[flagged]
- anon7725 2y agoYou’re certainly able to sus out everything about my worldview, knowledge level and intentions from my one-sentence comment. The only thing that LLMs are at risk of subverting is the livelihood of millions of people. AI is a capital intensifier, so the rich will get richer as it sees more uptake. About copyright - yeah, I’m quite concerned for my friends who are writers and artists. > You'll get left behind with these takes, it's not smart. If you don't care about advancing technology or society then have fun being a luddite, but you're on the wrong side of history. FWIW I work in applied research on LLMs.
- bschmidt3 2y ago[flagged]
- lukev 2y agoThe utility of LLMs clearly exists (I'm building a product on this premise, so I'm not uninterested!) But hype also exists. How closely they are matched is not yet clear. But your comment seems to indicate that the "pro-tech" position is automatically the best. This is _not_ true, as cryptocurrency has already demonstrated.
- bschmidt3 2y agoFunny thing is you are actually the pro [corporate] tech one, not on the side of freedom. Furthermore nobody said anything about crypto - you are seriously grasping at straws. You have said nothing about the products on shelves (billions of dollars in the industry already) argument, only presented crypto as an argument which has nothing to do with the conversation.
- bschmidt1 2y ago> This is _not_ true, as cryptocurrency has already demonstrated. His whole argument against AI is basically the anti-tech stance: "Well crypto failed that means AI will too" It's coming from a place of disdain for technology. That's your typical Hacker News commenter. This site is like Fox News in 2008 - some of the dumbest people alive
- lukev 2y agoNot at all! I am broadly speaking very pro-tech. What I am against is the “if it’s tech it’s good” mindset that seems to have infected far too many. I mention crypto because it’s the largest example of tech that is not good for the world.
- dang 2y agoYou've continued to break the site guidelines, not just with this account but with others like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41681416 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41681416, and ignored our requests to stop. Between that and the personally abusive emails you've been sending, it's clear that you don't want to use HN as intended, so I've banned the accounts.
- lmm 2y ago> I see AI art everywhere, AI writing, customer support - already happened. Is any of it adding value though? I can see that AI has made it easier to do SEO spam and make an excuse for your lack of customer support, just like IVR systems before it. But I don't believe those added any real value (they may have generated profits for their makers, but I think that was a zero- or negative-sum trade). Put it this way: is AI being used to generate anything that people are actually happy to receive?
- bschmidt3 2y ago[flagged]
- fragmede 2y ago> But I don't believe those added any real value (they may have generated profits for their makers, but I think that was a zero- or negative-sum trade). Okay, so some people are making money with it, but no true value was added, eh?
- lmm 2y agoDo new scams create value? No, even though they make money for some people. The same with speculative ventures that don't pan out. You can only say something's added value when it's been positive sum overall, not just allowed some people to take a profit at the expense of others.
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