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Though, I guess to ground this a little: I can say that observationally, this just-do-the-emissions reasoning is real. Over the past several decades, many indu
by abeppu 2y ago
Though, I guess to ground this a little:
I can say that observationally, this just-do-the-emissions reasoning is real. Over the past several decades, many industrialized individuals and groups have realized that pushing certain harmful chemicals into the environment is lawful almost regardless of the amount. So now there's a broad emitter culture that encourages independent destructive action against productive ecosystems and planetary systems, threatening the long term viability of public infrastructure, administrative facilities, retail outlets, and personal homes!
The scale of destruction from climate activists is many orders of magnitude less than the destruction of what they're railing against. These soup-throwers are being charged, but Exxon/BP/Chevron are never charged with manslaughter or even reckless endangerment when a heatwave or hurricane which would not have happened but for climate change claims its many victims.
- pvaldes 2y ago> The scale of destruction from climate activists is many orders of magnitude less than the destruction of what they're railing against. two wrongs don't make a right. "Bob shoot at me, therefore I can rape Lisa?". Sorry, but I'm not buying that BS.
- abeppu 2y agoNo one is claiming two wrongs don't make a right. I'm certainly not saying these activists should have no punishment (and they know that they're risking prosecution when they undertake their actions). But we should also be keenly aware that the emitters that causing a giant and growing crisis which has already killed a bunch of people and will kill many more in the future are not facing any punishment, and this should be at least as significant a story as 2 people getting 2 years for throwing soup.
- pvaldes 2y agoMuseums are NOT the emitters. As I said before this is just a silly excuse to attack valuable objects from western culture.
- ruined 2y agoyour metaphor has the timeline backwards. bob has an obligation to defend lisa from assault im fucking the planet, therefore bob can shoot at me
- pvaldes 2y agoDon't argue the metaphor (specially if you aren't understanding it: Here Bob "oil company families" is funding the rape of Lisa "museums" by a third. Bob and Lisa aren't related at all). Stop-Oil need to be in a special class of ignorant to not even understand that old painting masters had none relationship with Petrol companies. They painted using only 100% sustainable vegetable oil taken from agriculture. Would they have a tenth of a brain, stop-oil should be promoting the use of sustainable alternatives to fossil oils. They should be helping museums, not assaulting them.