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It's a matter of how established the science actually is. Questioning novel science is one thing but questioning if the Earth is flat or Germ Theory is another
by consteval 2y ago
It's a matter of how established the science actually is.
Questioning novel science is one thing but questioning if the Earth is flat or Germ Theory is another thing all together. The problem with skeptics is that they sometimes hang around conspiracists.
It's hard to not discount these people when the person next to them thinks black people are biologically inferior. Then when those skeptics don't distance themselves or don't explicitly condemn those bad actors, it brings to question if their positions are born of skepticism or some strange prejudice, and that they merely constructed the cover of skepticism to hide their strange prejudices.
For example, during the Covid pandemic there was a lot of questioning around masks. In hindsight, the answer is obvious: it doesn't really matter if masks were or were not effective, because they're essentially free to wear. Even in the worst case, nobody is actually hurt.
But there were many, maybe millions, of mask deniers who would simply refuse to wear them. They were doing this because of institutional distrust and political motivations, not because they truly believed the masks were dangerous. And this is the trouble: these people are skeptics, but they're skeptics with an end-goal of political destabilization, i.e. they're dangerous.
When you mix it all together, which people often do to themselves, it's discredits the very thought process.
- mistermann 2y agoYour mind reading and soothsaying are perfectly rational though I suppose, it is only us conspiracy theorists who suffer from delusional cognition?
- consteval 2y ago> it is only us conspiracy theorists who suffer from delusional cognition Of course not, but if you, say, think the Earth is flat you are delusional. That's just what it is, and I'm not gonna hand hold crazy people when I tell them they're crazy. The issue is when crazy people assimilate, or rather try to infiltrate, groups of educated skeptics. Now they all look crazy, and that's a problem.
- mistermann 2y agoAnd what of the much larger harm your kind causes to the world? Nothing a nice story can't wash clean I suspect, but then that doesn't stop the harm.
- consteval 2y agoMy kind? What... round-earthers? Or do you mean people who didn't deny Covid? Hmm I would demonstratablely less harm than you. Because even if masks are almost useless, that's better than nothing, right? Simply being contrarian for the sake of it isn't impressive, it's kind of sad. Sometimes the big dogs are just right. If you can't articulate their motivation, objective value gain, methods, etc, then you're probably just crazy.
- mistermann 2y ago> My kind? What... round-earthers? No, normative thinkers.
- notheyarent 2y agoNobody fucking cares about politics mate. People can’t breath with them on hot crowded city buses or for 9 hours straight when working. Your just a cuck who wore his face happy trying to justify his cowardice now to himself. Nobody else is interested in your shit ideas and theories
- consteval 2y agoSee, this is what I mean. People who take a skeptical approach to masks aren't doing it for scientific reasoning, they're doing it to avoid being a "cuck". This type of mentality actively discredits skeptics, because nobody wants to be lumped in with that. There're genuinely very smart people who were/are skeptical of many Covid policies, but unfortunately, they have to stand next to you. Which, of course, makes them look very stupid. It's a tough problem.
- mistermann 2y ago> Which, of course, makes them look very stupid Because of normative cognition, which you suffer from, and which is causing the planet to warm up. No problem though, you carry on just as you are, no need for you and yours to improve yourselves.
- consteval 2y ago> which is causing the planet to warm up Yes, if you don't believe in Global Warming, you are just stupid. I'm not gonna hold your hand when I make you aware of your intellectual insufficiencies - you are stupid. Now that you know you're stupid, you can either choose to reinforce your stupidity by living in a delusion or you can do a bit of research and catch up to the average human. I don't care either way, but you're passed the point of claiming ignorance. Eventually the stupidity is self-enforced, meaning you and others will go out of your way to ensure you are stupid.
- mistermann 2y agoThere has surely got to be a better way to discuss important matters like climate change than this.