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Keep it simple and just use the word rent. No need to complicate it. “Rent until we choose to not allow you to access it for a one time payment of $x”.

falcolas 2y ago
I'm afraid that the connotations around rent (namely monthly payments) would only encourage the worst publishers to only go further.
- ronsor 2y ago
  No one is renting a game for $70/month.
  - warkdarrior 2y ago
    Not yet!
    - rvnx 2y ago
      Absolutely! Markets evolve, see, for example, nobody was willing to pay on things like Siri, and now millions of folks are spending 25 USD/month on Siri+. EDIT: sorry, just came from the future.
      - deleted 2y ago
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  - Foobar8568 2y ago
    Not sure of the cost of MMORPG, but at one stage they were like $12-$14, and Everquest even had a server that was lived for a couple of years, legend, where it was like $40/month, a bit pay-to-win server...I mean with a better CS support.
    - NikkiA 2y ago
      > but at one stage they were like $12-$14 they (the ones that are subscription) still are. And most of them have micro-transactions on top of that as well. Some will give you a (very) limited number of micro-transaction currency-units per month.
  - yencabulator 2y ago
    $50 up front and $10/month...
  - strathmeyer 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_pass_(video_games) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_pass_(video_games)
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  Sellers are smarter than that, they already go as far as they think buyers will let them. It is the buyers who need elucidation.
  - diggan 2y ago
    If you solution involves getting the general population to do something or "be better" somehow, it's not a practical solution.
packetlost 2y ago
Idk, I think "rent" and "license" have different meanings. Modern definitions of "rent" include periodicity into the definition, which is at odds with the "one time until we shut off the servers" definition. I agree with the GP on the terminology for these reasons.
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  The whole point is to highlight, for the lay consumer, the periodicity of their purchase, regardless of the periodicity of payments. And hopefully create market pressure for sellers to sell things rather than rent them.
  - packetlost 2y ago
    Fair, I can get behind that reasoning
- scottmf 2y ago
  I “rented” a movie on Apple TV last night. I’m quite confident I won’t be paying again in 30 days :)
  - ianburrell 2y ago
    That is good reason to not use "rent" because it is already used in industry for short fixed-term rental.
    - lotsofpulp 2y ago
      The button should say rent: 1 day or 7 days or “until we choose to no longer give you access”.
      - anticensor 2y ago
        It should say "rent product and purchase accompanying one-time and recurring services".

falcolas 2y ago

I'm afraid that the connotations around rent (namely monthly payments) would only encourage the worst publishers to only go further.

ronsor 2y ago
No one is renting a game for $70/month.
- warkdarrior 2y ago
  Not yet!
  - rvnx 2y ago
    Absolutely! Markets evolve, see, for example, nobody was willing to pay on things like Siri, and now millions of folks are spending 25 USD/month on Siri+. EDIT: sorry, just came from the future.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
- Foobar8568 2y ago
  Not sure of the cost of MMORPG, but at one stage they were like $12-$14, and Everquest even had a server that was lived for a couple of years, legend, where it was like $40/month, a bit pay-to-win server...I mean with a better CS support.
  - NikkiA 2y ago
    > but at one stage they were like $12-$14 they (the ones that are subscription) still are. And most of them have micro-transactions on top of that as well. Some will give you a (very) limited number of micro-transaction currency-units per month.
- yencabulator 2y ago
  $50 up front and $10/month...
- strathmeyer 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_pass_(video_games) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_pass_(video_games)
lotsofpulp 2y ago
Sellers are smarter than that, they already go as far as they think buyers will let them. It is the buyers who need elucidation.
- diggan 2y ago
  If you solution involves getting the general population to do something or "be better" somehow, it's not a practical solution.

packetlost 2y ago

Idk, I think "rent" and "license" have different meanings. Modern definitions of "rent" include periodicity into the definition, which is at odds with the "one time until we shut off the servers" definition. I agree with the GP on the terminology for these reasons.

lotsofpulp 2y ago
The whole point is to highlight, for the lay consumer, the periodicity of their purchase, regardless of the periodicity of payments. And hopefully create market pressure for sellers to sell things rather than rent them.
- packetlost 2y ago
  Fair, I can get behind that reasoning
scottmf 2y ago
I “rented” a movie on Apple TV last night. I’m quite confident I won’t be paying again in 30 days :)
- ianburrell 2y ago
  That is good reason to not use "rent" because it is already used in industry for short fixed-term rental.
  - lotsofpulp 2y ago
    The button should say rent: 1 day or 7 days or “until we choose to no longer give you access”.
    - anticensor 2y ago
      It should say "rent product and purchase accompanying one-time and recurring services".