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> We choose instead to condemn the people who draw attention to this. We condemn them because what they do is dumb not because they draw attention to climate c

> We choose instead to condemn the people who draw attention to this. We condemn them because what they do is dumb not because they draw attention to climate change. It’s the same thing as glorifying a teenager skipping school. Climate activists are incredibly good at killing their own credibility. That’s why most people don’t bank on them to change anything. > But all the 'yay humanity let's all cooperate in pursuit of a solution' thinkers are demonstrably failing, because selfish people make up the largest bloc (though still a minority) of humanity. It’s a useless way of tackling the issue. You won’t magically convince the global population to have a worse life especially considering inequalities are so high. You go tell the Nigerian that they should accept to die of starvation (the country feeds itself through oil export and its population is booming) because sadly the USA polluted too much. It’s all for the greater good after all. Meanwhile, people actually tackling the issue are making impressive strides in the right direction. You want to solve global warming? Go do research on cleaner tech. Throwing soup at paintings is a pointless waste of time.

anigbrowl 2y ago
It's not dumb because it fulfils their communication goal. You go tell the Nigerian This is trying to displace responsibility for fossil fuel extraction to some remote place with different incentives. Climate activists like Just Stop Oil are concerned with the policy choices, lobbying, subsidies, infrastructure, and overconsumption of fossil fuels in the developed countries where they live. Demanding those change is a valid political position.
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- RandomThoughts3 2y ago
  > This is trying to displace responsibility for fossil fuel extraction to some remote place with different incentives. That seems meaningless to me. You can’t displace responsibility for a global problem. You do realise extraction is massively done by national companies in countries which hold the ressource and not by developed countries. The days Big Oil dominated the market are long gone. That’s the core of the issue. You won’t magically convince countries which are entirely dependent on fossil fuels for their prosperity to stop. That’s why tackling production is missing the point. Unless you find alternative to consumption and develop capture, you are bound to fail.
johnchristopher 2y ago
> Meanwhile, people actually tackling the issue are making impressive strides in the right direction. You want to solve global warming? Go do research on cleaner tech. Throwing soup at paintings is a pointless waste of time. Ahem, https://scientistrebellion.org/ https://scientistrebellion.org/ > It’s a useless way of tackling the issue. You won’t magically convince the global population to have a worse life especially considering inequalities are so high. You go tell the Nigerian that they should accept to die of starvation (the country feeds itself through oil export and its population is booming) because sadly the USA polluted too much. It’s all for the greater good after all. These things are going to happen unless we transi... no, wait, that's too late... unless we learn to adapt and actually adapt.

anigbrowl 2y ago

It's not dumb because it fulfils their communication goal. You go tell the Nigerian This is trying to displace responsibility for fossil fuel extraction to some remote place with different incentives. Climate activists like Just Stop Oil are concerned with the policy choices, lobbying, subsidies, infrastructure, and overconsumption of fossil fuels in the developed countries where they live. Demanding those change is a valid political position.

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RandomThoughts3 2y ago
> This is trying to displace responsibility for fossil fuel extraction to some remote place with different incentives. That seems meaningless to me. You can’t displace responsibility for a global problem. You do realise extraction is massively done by national companies in countries which hold the ressource and not by developed countries. The days Big Oil dominated the market are long gone. That’s the core of the issue. You won’t magically convince countries which are entirely dependent on fossil fuels for their prosperity to stop. That’s why tackling production is missing the point. Unless you find alternative to consumption and develop capture, you are bound to fail.

johnchristopher 2y ago

> Meanwhile, people actually tackling the issue are making impressive strides in the right direction. You want to solve global warming? Go do research on cleaner tech. Throwing soup at paintings is a pointless waste of time. Ahem, https://scientistrebellion.org/ https://scientistrebellion.org/ > It’s a useless way of tackling the issue. You won’t magically convince the global population to have a worse life especially considering inequalities are so high. You go tell the Nigerian that they should accept to die of starvation (the country feeds itself through oil export and its population is booming) because sadly the USA polluted too much. It’s all for the greater good after all. These things are going to happen unless we transi... no, wait, that's too late... unless we learn to adapt and actually adapt.