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The problem is that Google defines what these sites are doing as spam: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies#site-reputation https:

by ndiddy 2y ago

The problem is that Google defines what these sites are doing as spam: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies#site-reputation https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-po... > Site reputation abuse is when third-party pages are published with little or no first-party oversight or involvement, where the purpose is to manipulate search rankings by taking advantage of the first-party site's ranking signals. Such third-party pages include sponsored, advertising, partner, or other third-party pages that are typically independent of a host site's main purpose or produced without close oversight or involvement of the host site. It means that consumers will be shown reviews written by affiliate marketers rather than real people because the affiliate marketers get to leech off of Forbes's, CNN's, or USA Today's domain reputation. Despite this, Google is either unwilling or unable to derank major sites over this issue.

jmull 2y ago
RE "...with little or no first-party oversight or involvement..." and "...without close oversight or involvement of the host site..." Why do you think there isn't oversight or involvement from CNN?
- magic-michael 2y ago
  Absolutely, spot on. These publishers aren't just letting anyone post. If you actually check, the writers are legit experts in their fields. Take a look at the authors and their LinkedIn profiles—they’ve been covering these topics for years
  - dfc 2y ago
    Which of these authors have LinkedIn profiles documenting their employment history?
- ndiddy 2y ago
  For the CNN Underscored Money example, none of the writers or editors on the site work for CNN. They're all contractors who work for Marketplace, an affiliate marketing company. The site is hosted on completely separate infrastructure from CNN Underscored, just skinned to look similar to it. They even have a different privacy policy just for CNN Underscored Money. If CNN had major oversight or control of the content on CNN Underscored Money, you would think they would host it themselves rather than allowing an affiliate marketing company to independently operate the category.
  - jmull 2y ago
    > They're all contractors who work for Marketplace ... The site is hosted on completely separate infrastructure from CNN Underscored, just skinned to look similar to it. They even have a different privacy policy just for CNN Underscored Money. But those things have nothing to do with whether or not CNN has involvement and oversight over the CNN underscored content. I have no idea myself, but you certainly can't infer it from irrelevant facts.

by ndiddy 2y ago

jmull 2y ago

RE "...with little or no first-party oversight or involvement..." and "...without close oversight or involvement of the host site..." Why do you think there isn't oversight or involvement from CNN?

magic-michael 2y ago
Absolutely, spot on. These publishers aren't just letting anyone post. If you actually check, the writers are legit experts in their fields. Take a look at the authors and their LinkedIn profiles—they’ve been covering these topics for years
- dfc 2y ago
  Which of these authors have LinkedIn profiles documenting their employment history?
ndiddy 2y ago
For the CNN Underscored Money example, none of the writers or editors on the site work for CNN. They're all contractors who work for Marketplace, an affiliate marketing company. The site is hosted on completely separate infrastructure from CNN Underscored, just skinned to look similar to it. They even have a different privacy policy just for CNN Underscored Money. If CNN had major oversight or control of the content on CNN Underscored Money, you would think they would host it themselves rather than allowing an affiliate marketing company to independently operate the category.
- jmull 2y ago
  > They're all contractors who work for Marketplace ... The site is hosted on completely separate infrastructure from CNN Underscored, just skinned to look similar to it. They even have a different privacy policy just for CNN Underscored Money. But those things have nothing to do with whether or not CNN has involvement and oversight over the CNN underscored content. I have no idea myself, but you certainly can't infer it from irrelevant facts.