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Not quite the same thing as none of those items really have an undue cost to the facility - ramps (when needed, a lot of those stores are built level to the par

Not quite the same thing as none of those items really have an undue cost to the facility - ramps (when needed, a lot of those stores are built level to the parking lot/sidewalk) can be used for the disabled as well as store workers/delivery workers moving heavy items on dollies/hand trucks, custom bathroom stalls are basically just larger stalls, and special parking spots are just normal parking spots that with a slightly different paint job. There's not much extra effort that goes into these items. This move would me more akin to requiring Wal-Mart to attach braille price stickers to every individual item in the store.

chime 14y ago
> There's not much extra effort that goes into these items. Special parking spots easily cost 1% more than regular parking spots because of the markings on ground and the metal signage. That fits into the excessive cost range that the original parent post was against. I do like your analogy of braille on every item. I think make something accessible should mean accessible not perfectly suited in the best environment. That is, you should make your site/app accessible to e-readers, not be required to make a whole another custom UI just for e-readers.
- Anechoic 14y ago
  > Special parking spots easily cost 1% more than regular parking spots because of the markings on ground and the metal signage. Eh, I don't know that it would even be 1% more - for a construction project most of the cost comes from the mobilization of equipment and prep work. For the construction of a parking lot, you have excavation, installation of drainage, installaction of subgrade, paving, curbing, signage, and line painting, all of which take a week of more for a decent sized lot. When it comes time to lay out the HPV sport, the line-spraying and post-hole digging equipment is already there, it's just applied differently. I'd be shocked if it were even a 1% difference. In any event, given that the contingency on construction projects is typically 5% to 10%, so even 1% is insignificant. But we're in the weeds here ;)

chime 14y ago

> There's not much extra effort that goes into these items. Special parking spots easily cost 1% more than regular parking spots because of the markings on ground and the metal signage. That fits into the excessive cost range that the original parent post was against. I do like your analogy of braille on every item. I think make something accessible should mean accessible not perfectly suited in the best environment. That is, you should make your site/app accessible to e-readers, not be required to make a whole another custom UI just for e-readers.

Anechoic 14y ago
> Special parking spots easily cost 1% more than regular parking spots because of the markings on ground and the metal signage. Eh, I don't know that it would even be 1% more - for a construction project most of the cost comes from the mobilization of equipment and prep work. For the construction of a parking lot, you have excavation, installation of drainage, installaction of subgrade, paving, curbing, signage, and line painting, all of which take a week of more for a decent sized lot. When it comes time to lay out the HPV sport, the line-spraying and post-hole digging equipment is already there, it's just applied differently. I'd be shocked if it were even a 1% difference. In any event, given that the contingency on construction projects is typically 5% to 10%, so even 1% is insignificant. But we're in the weeds here ;)