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In Star Trek, one thing that I always found weird as a kid is they didn't have TVs. Even if the holodeck is a much better experience, I imagine sometimes you wo

In Star Trek, one thing that I always found weird as a kid is they didn't have TVs. Even if the holodeck is a much better experience, I imagine sometimes you would want to watch a movie and not be in the movie. Did the future not have works like No Country for Old Men or comedies like Monty Python, or even just stuff like live sports and the news? Nowadays we know why the crew of the enterprise all go to live performances of Shakespeare and practice musical instruments and painting themselves: electronic mediums are so full of AI slop there is nothing worth see, only endless deluges of sludge.

palata 2y ago
That's actually a good point. I'm curious to see if people will keep making selfies everywhere they go after they realize that you can take a selfie at home and have an AI create an image that looks like you are somewhere else. "This is me in front of the Statue of Liberty - Oh, are you in NYC? - Nope, it's a snap filter" Somehow selfies should lose value, right?
- movedx 2y ago
  A selfie is meant to tell us, your audience, a story about you and the journey you’re on. Selfies are a great tool for telling stories, in fact. One selfie can say a thousand words, and then some. But a selfie taken and then modified to lie to the audience about your story or your journey is simply a fiction. People create fictions to either lie to themselves or to lie to others. Sometimes they’re not about lying to the audience but just manipulating them. People’s viewpoints and perceptions are malleable. It’s easy to trick people into thinking something is true. Couple this with the fact a lot of people are gullible and shallow, and suddenly a selfie becomes a sales tool. A marketing gimmick. Now, finally, take advances in AI to make it easier, faster, and more accessible to make highly believable fictions and yes, as you said, the selfie loses its value. But that’s always been the case since and even before Photoshop. Since and before the silicon microprocessor. All AI is going to do for selfies is what Photoshop has done for social media “Influencers” — enable more fiction with the goal to transfer wealth from other people.
  - palata 2y ago
    But then if instead of spending 20min taking pictures in front of the Mona Lisa to take the perfect selfie you can actually visit the museum and have an AI generate selfies that tell the story of your visit, will you still care to take them "manually" (with all the filters that still count as "manual")? That's what I was thinking: if you spend hours taking selfies during your weekend, and during this time I just enjoy my time and have an AI generate better selfies of myself. What will you do? And then when everybody just has an AI generate their story for them, so you know that all the pictures you see are synthesized. Will you care about watching them or will you rather use an app that likes the autogenerated selfies that make sense to you?
namrog84 2y ago
Keep in mind that most of star trek was following the federation and the like. I've always considered them mostly the idealized versions of society or also workaholics and people who genuinely enjoying working as their past time. I feel back on their main planets the regular folks probably did a lot more random entertainment

palata 2y ago

That's actually a good point. I'm curious to see if people will keep making selfies everywhere they go after they realize that you can take a selfie at home and have an AI create an image that looks like you are somewhere else. "This is me in front of the Statue of Liberty - Oh, are you in NYC? - Nope, it's a snap filter" Somehow selfies should lose value, right?

movedx 2y ago
A selfie is meant to tell us, your audience, a story about you and the journey you’re on. Selfies are a great tool for telling stories, in fact. One selfie can say a thousand words, and then some. But a selfie taken and then modified to lie to the audience about your story or your journey is simply a fiction. People create fictions to either lie to themselves or to lie to others. Sometimes they’re not about lying to the audience but just manipulating them. People’s viewpoints and perceptions are malleable. It’s easy to trick people into thinking something is true. Couple this with the fact a lot of people are gullible and shallow, and suddenly a selfie becomes a sales tool. A marketing gimmick. Now, finally, take advances in AI to make it easier, faster, and more accessible to make highly believable fictions and yes, as you said, the selfie loses its value. But that’s always been the case since and even before Photoshop. Since and before the silicon microprocessor. All AI is going to do for selfies is what Photoshop has done for social media “Influencers” — enable more fiction with the goal to transfer wealth from other people.
- palata 2y ago
  But then if instead of spending 20min taking pictures in front of the Mona Lisa to take the perfect selfie you can actually visit the museum and have an AI generate selfies that tell the story of your visit, will you still care to take them "manually" (with all the filters that still count as "manual")? That's what I was thinking: if you spend hours taking selfies during your weekend, and during this time I just enjoy my time and have an AI generate better selfies of myself. What will you do? And then when everybody just has an AI generate their story for them, so you know that all the pictures you see are synthesized. Will you care about watching them or will you rather use an app that likes the autogenerated selfies that make sense to you?

namrog84 2y ago

Keep in mind that most of star trek was following the federation and the like. I've always considered them mostly the idealized versions of society or also workaholics and people who genuinely enjoying working as their past time. I feel back on their main planets the regular folks probably did a lot more random entertainment