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Is there a list of those models somewhere? The article is partially paywalled and hard to say which ones.

by izacus 2y ago

0xEF 2y ago
I think, at this point, we can assume if it has a camera, microphone in the controller, connects to wifi, etc, it will be spying on you in some way. No list needed, just look for displays without those features. I get around it by using PC displays as televisions, usually hooked up to a thinclient or SBC that I've purpose for media delivery. So, when I shop for a display, any feature beyond an HDMI port becomes wholly unnecessary to me.
- izacus 2y ago
  That's kind of bull though, because it's absolutely not true for Samsung or LG lines of TVs. If it's so "easy to assume", surely you can point at some exact models?
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Given that LG is happy to add ads to tvs, why do you think this one more step is so unbelievable? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41655225 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41655225
Sharlin 2y ago
If it has any smart features at all, you can be pretty sure that it's spying on you in all sorts of ways.
- izacus 2y ago
  We're talking about TVs that take screenshots - which models do that?
  - tecleandor 2y ago
    Any modern Smart TV, I'd say that any of those made in the last 6 to 8 years. The feature is called ACR: "Automatic Content Recognition". It's more a capability of the TV OS than the hardware model, although of course, more processing on the hardware gives you more ACR capabilities and it isn't usually listed on the device features. Also, some of the brands have ACR under features named like "Samba TV" or "Live Plus", making it more difficult to find it on their setup menus. There are sites that tell you how to deactivate ACR for different TV brands. https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/stop-your-snooping-smart-tv-how-to-turn-off-data-collection-for-every-brand https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smart-tv-snooping-features-a4840102036/ https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/how-to-disable-acr-and-greatly-reduce-ads-on-every-tv-model-and-why-you-should/ Edit: of course, you could disconnect your TV from the Internet. Some years ago there were rumors about TVs connecting to open wifi APs by themselves, but I think I haven't seen any proofs of that...

Is there a list of those models somewhere? The article is partially paywalled and hard to say which ones.

by izacus 2y ago

Is there a list of those models somewhere? The article is partially paywalled and hard to say which ones.

0xEF 2y ago

I think, at this point, we can assume if it has a camera, microphone in the controller, connects to wifi, etc, it will be spying on you in some way. No list needed, just look for displays without those features. I get around it by using PC displays as televisions, usually hooked up to a thinclient or SBC that I've purpose for media delivery. So, when I shop for a display, any feature beyond an HDMI port becomes wholly unnecessary to me.

izacus 2y ago
That's kind of bull though, because it's absolutely not true for Samsung or LG lines of TVs. If it's so "easy to assume", surely you can point at some exact models?
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  Given that LG is happy to add ads to tvs, why do you think this one more step is so unbelievable? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41655225 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41655225

Sharlin 2y ago

If it has any smart features at all, you can be pretty sure that it's spying on you in all sorts of ways.

izacus 2y ago
We're talking about TVs that take screenshots - which models do that?
- tecleandor 2y ago
  Any modern Smart TV, I'd say that any of those made in the last 6 to 8 years. The feature is called ACR: "Automatic Content Recognition". It's more a capability of the TV OS than the hardware model, although of course, more processing on the hardware gives you more ACR capabilities and it isn't usually listed on the device features. Also, some of the brands have ACR under features named like "Samba TV" or "Live Plus", making it more difficult to find it on their setup menus. There are sites that tell you how to deactivate ACR for different TV brands. https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/stop-your-snooping-smart-tv-how-to-turn-off-data-collection-for-every-brand https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smart-tv-snooping-features-a4840102036/ https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/how-to-disable-acr-and-greatly-reduce-ads-on-every-tv-model-and-why-you-should/ Edit: of course, you could disconnect your TV from the Internet. Some years ago there were rumors about TVs connecting to open wifi APs by themselves, but I think I haven't seen any proofs of that...