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The whole point is that Sam is not going to stick to his statements. He is working behind the scenes to get a good stake in the company, and he most likely has

The whole point is that Sam is not going to stick to his statements. He is working behind the scenes to get a good stake in the company, and he most likely has told them he needs that stake to motivate himself to take the company to the next level. I am guessing that they have a slew of new tools upcoming and this is Sam cashing out.

Lerc 2y ago
I realize that you believe that he will not stick to his statements. My query is what evidence are you basing this belief upon? I'm prepared to be convinced by evidence. It seems like for so many people to have a strong opinion that he is a serial liar that there should be many cite-able sources where A) It is undeniable that Sam Altman said that. B) It is clear that this is false. and C) this has happened repeatedly. Too much of this seems to be relying on "Sources familiar with .... claim .... ". I'm really not trying to advocate for Altman or OpenAI here, I just would like the claims against them to be robust.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
  This is something I thought was interesting: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszwpgq/?context=3 https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the... And a plausible interpretation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41657334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41657334. Of course, as with any conspiracy theory, there are many unknown unknowns so make of it what you will. Personally, the many accounts of those who've worked with him along with these recorded statements push me towards being wary of his intentions. It actually reminds me of descriptions I've heard of Larry Ellison (including the ones famously made by bcantrill) that he's very personable. You'll hear all these things about him that sound awful but then you meet him and he seems okay, quite reasonable, even. Then you start to observe that he's really just motivated by money, full stop. The charm is only there to get yours. That's the feeling I get reading about sama.

Lerc 2y ago

I realize that you believe that he will not stick to his statements. My query is what evidence are you basing this belief upon? I'm prepared to be convinced by evidence. It seems like for so many people to have a strong opinion that he is a serial liar that there should be many cite-able sources where A) It is undeniable that Sam Altman said that. B) It is clear that this is false. and C) this has happened repeatedly. Too much of this seems to be relying on "Sources familiar with .... claim .... ". I'm really not trying to advocate for Altman or OpenAI here, I just would like the claims against them to be robust.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
This is something I thought was interesting: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszwpgq/?context=3 https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the... And a plausible interpretation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41657334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41657334. Of course, as with any conspiracy theory, there are many unknown unknowns so make of it what you will. Personally, the many accounts of those who've worked with him along with these recorded statements push me towards being wary of his intentions. It actually reminds me of descriptions I've heard of Larry Ellison (including the ones famously made by bcantrill) that he's very personable. You'll hear all these things about him that sound awful but then you meet him and he seems okay, quite reasonable, even. Then you start to observe that he's really just motivated by money, full stop. The charm is only there to get yours. That's the feeling I get reading about sama.