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It's naive to think this is a technical problem. Someone powerful at Starlink does not mind Russia using its tech. More than that, a lot of US allies, even NATO

It's naive to think this is a technical problem. Someone powerful at Starlink does not mind Russia using its tech. More than that, a lot of US allies, even NATO members, supply Russia with dual use tech even now and the White House cannot do much about it. The United States does not have that much power in the world as we used to think.

inemesitaffia 2y ago
Please wear your tin foil hat properly. Russians are buying starlink equipment from the same place Ukrainians are; paying the same way, using the same way and in the same country. It's not working in Russia, The company doesn't ship there, and doesn't accept payment from Russian banks or cards
- karp773 2y ago
  Read this, for example. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66752264 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66752264
  - inemesitaffia 2y ago
    Your claims aren't strengthened by that article. Till today starlink doesn't work there in Crimea unless you use equipment bought by the Pentagon. The Crimea sanctions aren't gone. And at that time the US refused to allow Ukraine use it's weapons in Crimea And I feel I'm arguing with someone who doesn't know how Satellite Internet works, what spot beams are or how starlink dishes are bought in Ukraine. I'll give you a clue. If you buy a dish at a supermarket in any country starlink operates, sign up for a roaming plan and enter Ukraine it will work. Just like any other global satellite Internet provider. A stronger clue? No one involved has talked about it. And we don't even know if it's real. Nothing from Ukraine, the State Department, the Pentagon, or SpaceX. Not one word.
    - karp773 2y ago
      Starlink could shut it down for Ukraine on a whim, right in the middle of the mission. That's all one needs to know.
      - karp773 2y ago
        Actually, not only could but was willing to. And that was a year ago. It is reasonable to presume their admin and monitoring tools have only become better since then.
        inemesitaffia 2y ago
        An area block is different when it's so far from the battlefield. This is equipment used over Kyiv itself. This is an ongoing issue left over from stories earlier this year of Russia using Starlink. Something both Ukraine and the Pentagon are saying SpaceX is proactive in cooperation. Unless you're asking SpaceX to turn off Starlink in Ukraine period. One way to limit this issue right now is to cut the speed of mobility below 100 km/hr. I don't know if it can be done locally only. Moreso this is a situation where data is being given to Ukraine and the Pentagon. Likely live (SpaceX sells monitoring dashboards to Enterprise customers) so they can work with that data

inemesitaffia 2y ago

Please wear your tin foil hat properly. Russians are buying starlink equipment from the same place Ukrainians are; paying the same way, using the same way and in the same country. It's not working in Russia, The company doesn't ship there, and doesn't accept payment from Russian banks or cards

karp773 2y ago
Read this, for example. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66752264 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66752264
- inemesitaffia 2y ago
  Your claims aren't strengthened by that article. Till today starlink doesn't work there in Crimea unless you use equipment bought by the Pentagon. The Crimea sanctions aren't gone. And at that time the US refused to allow Ukraine use it's weapons in Crimea And I feel I'm arguing with someone who doesn't know how Satellite Internet works, what spot beams are or how starlink dishes are bought in Ukraine. I'll give you a clue. If you buy a dish at a supermarket in any country starlink operates, sign up for a roaming plan and enter Ukraine it will work. Just like any other global satellite Internet provider. A stronger clue? No one involved has talked about it. And we don't even know if it's real. Nothing from Ukraine, the State Department, the Pentagon, or SpaceX. Not one word.
  - karp773 2y ago
    Starlink could shut it down for Ukraine on a whim, right in the middle of the mission. That's all one needs to know.
    - karp773 2y ago
      Actually, not only could but was willing to. And that was a year ago. It is reasonable to presume their admin and monitoring tools have only become better since then.
      - inemesitaffia 2y ago
        An area block is different when it's so far from the battlefield. This is equipment used over Kyiv itself. This is an ongoing issue left over from stories earlier this year of Russia using Starlink. Something both Ukraine and the Pentagon are saying SpaceX is proactive in cooperation. Unless you're asking SpaceX to turn off Starlink in Ukraine period. One way to limit this issue right now is to cut the speed of mobility below 100 km/hr. I don't know if it can be done locally only. Moreso this is a situation where data is being given to Ukraine and the Pentagon. Likely live (SpaceX sells monitoring dashboards to Enterprise customers) so they can work with that data