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> The people who are using libgen, are probably also not the people who would pay an author for a book anyway Quite the opposite: as with all piracy, the ones

> The people who are using libgen, are probably also not the people who would pay an author for a book anyway Quite the opposite: as with all piracy, the ones who pirate stuff are also the ones who spend the most money buying the stuff they pirate. (For books there's the obvious reason that paper is still by far the best reading experience, but it was also true of DVD, video games, music CDs etc. but these people wouldn't have spent more money if piracy was impossible).

catlikesshrimp 2y ago
The only med books I bought were atlases (histology, anatomy, etc) Everything else I borrowed, photocopied or bought second hand. Many of my classmates did the same. In our group, very few rich students ever photocopied or bought second hand If books weren't sold for profit, we would have better books, only released less often. Back then, we didn't have so many yearly releases, and I honestly think that isn't needed. Why would we have better books you say? Similar to how open source projects draw very good programmers. Some do it for prestige, and some weird ones do it for the joy o f doing true quality work. IMHO
k_roy 2y ago
> Quite the opposite: as with all piracy, the ones who pirate stuff are also the ones who spend the most money buying the stuff they pirate. (For books there's the obvious reason that paper is still by far the best reading experience, but it was also true of DVD, video games, music CDs etc. but these people wouldn't have spent more money if piracy was impossible). you take a few interesting leaps in a failed attempt of.... trying to turn opinion into fact? > the ones who pirate stuff are also the ones who spend the most money buying the stuff they pirate. Uhhh, wot?? Please provide ANY source for this. Really. Like even if it's a blog you wrote and was a creative writing experiment for you, publish it. Just so I can mock you. > (For books there's the obvious reason that paper is still by far the best reading experience, but it was also true of DVD, video games, music CDs etc. but these people wouldn't have spent more money if piracy was impossible). So at this point, I hope it's clear that you are a bit silly. But... > For books there's the obvious reason that paper is still by far the best reading experience This level of intellectual dishonest is horrible, especially if it's legitimate.
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  How do you expect do have any kind of conversation with this behavior? Flagging is the only thing that you'll get.
  - k_roy 2y ago
    And how can you expect to have any level of honest discussion if you are going to make insane assertions, with zero backup of anything resembling facts, and then get bent out of shape when called out about it. I'm sorry that I called you intellectually dishonest and you got mad, but it's the truth.

catlikesshrimp 2y ago

The only med books I bought were atlases (histology, anatomy, etc) Everything else I borrowed, photocopied or bought second hand. Many of my classmates did the same. In our group, very few rich students ever photocopied or bought second hand If books weren't sold for profit, we would have better books, only released less often. Back then, we didn't have so many yearly releases, and I honestly think that isn't needed. Why would we have better books you say? Similar to how open source projects draw very good programmers. Some do it for prestige, and some weird ones do it for the joy o f doing true quality work. IMHO

k_roy 2y ago

> Quite the opposite: as with all piracy, the ones who pirate stuff are also the ones who spend the most money buying the stuff they pirate. (For books there's the obvious reason that paper is still by far the best reading experience, but it was also true of DVD, video games, music CDs etc. but these people wouldn't have spent more money if piracy was impossible). you take a few interesting leaps in a failed attempt of.... trying to turn opinion into fact? > the ones who pirate stuff are also the ones who spend the most money buying the stuff they pirate. Uhhh, wot?? Please provide ANY source for this. Really. Like even if it's a blog you wrote and was a creative writing experiment for you, publish it. Just so I can mock you. > (For books there's the obvious reason that paper is still by far the best reading experience, but it was also true of DVD, video games, music CDs etc. but these people wouldn't have spent more money if piracy was impossible). So at this point, I hope it's clear that you are a bit silly. But... > For books there's the obvious reason that paper is still by far the best reading experience This level of intellectual dishonest is horrible, especially if it's legitimate.

littlestymaar 2y ago
How do you expect do have any kind of conversation with this behavior? Flagging is the only thing that you'll get.
- k_roy 2y ago
  And how can you expect to have any level of honest discussion if you are going to make insane assertions, with zero backup of anything resembling facts, and then get bent out of shape when called out about it. I'm sorry that I called you intellectually dishonest and you got mad, but it's the truth.