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> New standards for a faster and more private Internet > Zstandard I get "faster" but how does it make the internet "more private". The word "private" only sh

> New standards for a faster and more private Internet > Zstandard I get "faster" but how does it make the internet "more private". The word "private" only shows up exactly once on that page, in the title.

java-man 2y ago
They also talk about Encrypted Client Hello (ECH).
terrelln 2y ago
I believe that the "more private" part is referencing the "Encrypted Client Hello (ECH)" section in the later part of the post.
- gwbas1c 2y ago
  The title of something should reflect the content. This is an article about a new compression format, and thus the title should say that.
  - akdor1154 2y ago
    The first third of the article is indeed, maybe read the rest?
    - gwbas1c 2y ago
      I read really, really far into the article. The summary at the top made it look like the whole article was about compression.
- nicce 2y ago
  It is about moving the trust. > This means that whenever a user visits a website on Cloudflare that has ECH enabled, no one except for the user, Cloudflare, and the website owner will be able to determine which website was visited. So you must use entity which controls the DNS and this entity makes the request further for actual website. Feels like just worse VPN.
  - winkelmann 2y ago
    > It is about moving the trust. Trust isn't being moved, though. Cloudflare could, by design, always see what website you were accessing. The difference is with ECH, there is one less party (someone listening in on your internet traffic) that can see which hostname you're accessing.
    - nicce 2y ago
      I was more like comparing to VPN. My argument was poor. But on high level many do not use VPNs and they have very negative impact for service UX anyway these days, so not a big point.
ziddoap 2y ago
>The word "private" only shows up exactly once on that page, in the title. However, the word "privacy" shows up 10 times in the article.

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> New standards for a faster and more private Internet > Zstandard I get "faster" but how does it make the internet "more private". The word "private" only sh

by barbazoo 2y ago

java-man 2y ago
They also talk about Encrypted Client Hello (ECH).
terrelln 2y ago
I believe that the "more private" part is referencing the "Encrypted Client Hello (ECH)" section in the later part of the post.
- gwbas1c 2y ago
  The title of something should reflect the content. This is an article about a new compression format, and thus the title should say that.
  - akdor1154 2y ago
    The first third of the article is indeed, maybe read the rest?
    - gwbas1c 2y ago
      I read really, really far into the article. The summary at the top made it look like the whole article was about compression.
- nicce 2y ago
  It is about moving the trust. > This means that whenever a user visits a website on Cloudflare that has ECH enabled, no one except for the user, Cloudflare, and the website owner will be able to determine which website was visited. So you must use entity which controls the DNS and this entity makes the request further for actual website. Feels like just worse VPN.
  - winkelmann 2y ago
    > It is about moving the trust. Trust isn't being moved, though. Cloudflare could, by design, always see what website you were accessing. The difference is with ECH, there is one less party (someone listening in on your internet traffic) that can see which hostname you're accessing.
    - nicce 2y ago
      I was more like comparing to VPN. My argument was poor. But on high level many do not use VPNs and they have very negative impact for service UX anyway these days, so not a big point.
ziddoap 2y ago
>The word "private" only shows up exactly once on that page, in the title. However, the word "privacy" shows up 10 times in the article.