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It's pretty simple -- If you think Tesla is leading and will solve the FSD problem first, the 1T market cap makes sense, and is possibly undervalued. If you ha

It's pretty simple -- If you think Tesla is leading and will solve the FSD problem first, the 1T market cap makes sense, and is possibly undervalued. If you hate Elon Musk because you disagree with his politics and dont drive a Tesla w/ FSD, you make comments like this on HN.

Workaccount2 2y ago
There are already non-tesla robotaxis in service that you can get in today. Tesla has been over promising and under delivering for over a decade, there is no evidence this time will be any different.
- misiti3780 2y ago
  Sure, but they dont scale. Each of those cars costs 100-120K
  - trog 2y ago
    > Sure, but they dont scale. Each of those cars costs 100-120K Why do you think they don't scale? Tax licenses have historically cost significantly more than this. If the cost to run is much lower - no human driver and cheaper energy costs - it seems like this will scale at least as well as taxis?
archagon 2y ago
And here you are, making comments about people making comments about Musk on HN.
- misiti3780 2y ago
  Anything I say above not true?
  - archagon 2y ago
    You claim that people hate Musk because of jealousy and/or politics. I don’t see any evidence of that. What I see is people being unwilling to entrust their lives to someone with a recent history of incredibly childish and questionable behavior. He shitposts on Twitter all day and runs his companies like a pig-headed 19th century baron. I don’t detect an iota of leadership in the man anymore: only ego. Why would functional FSD emerge from a company with a toxic culture like Tesla’s? Any self-respecting engineer with advanced skills will jump ship at the first opportunity.
    - misiti3780 2y ago
      You're conceding that you're more preoccupied with his tweets (i.e., his politics) than his actual achievements, which perfectly supports my point. Thousands of highly skilled engineers continue working at his companies, and they aren’t "jumping ship." It’s not incompetent engineers that are behind innovations like FSD 12, Cybertruck, Falcon 9, Starship, Raptor 3, and so on. These are complex, cutting-edge technologies—stupid engineers don't create them.

Workaccount2 2y ago

There are already non-tesla robotaxis in service that you can get in today. Tesla has been over promising and under delivering for over a decade, there is no evidence this time will be any different.

misiti3780 2y ago
Sure, but they dont scale. Each of those cars costs 100-120K
- trog 2y ago
  > Sure, but they dont scale. Each of those cars costs 100-120K Why do you think they don't scale? Tax licenses have historically cost significantly more than this. If the cost to run is much lower - no human driver and cheaper energy costs - it seems like this will scale at least as well as taxis?

archagon 2y ago

And here you are, making comments about people making comments about Musk on HN.

misiti3780 2y ago
Anything I say above not true?
- archagon 2y ago
  You claim that people hate Musk because of jealousy and/or politics. I don’t see any evidence of that. What I see is people being unwilling to entrust their lives to someone with a recent history of incredibly childish and questionable behavior. He shitposts on Twitter all day and runs his companies like a pig-headed 19th century baron. I don’t detect an iota of leadership in the man anymore: only ego. Why would functional FSD emerge from a company with a toxic culture like Tesla’s? Any self-respecting engineer with advanced skills will jump ship at the first opportunity.
  - misiti3780 2y ago
    You're conceding that you're more preoccupied with his tweets (i.e., his politics) than his actual achievements, which perfectly supports my point. Thousands of highly skilled engineers continue working at his companies, and they aren’t "jumping ship." It’s not incompetent engineers that are behind innovations like FSD 12, Cybertruck, Falcon 9, Starship, Raptor 3, and so on. These are complex, cutting-edge technologies—stupid engineers don't create them.