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"I hate that we eat a bowl of feces every day, can we switch to something else? "I want steak!" "I want salad!" "I want fish!" "Alright, well, there's absol

"I hate that we eat a bowl of feces every day, can we switch to something else? "I want steak!" "I want salad!" "I want fish!" "Alright, well, there's absolutely no agreement, let's stick with the feces."

Arubis 2y ago
Same point I'm trying to make, but you _absolutely_ win on effect. Well put!
m_rpn 2y ago
Best comment of 2024, maybe even 2025 just on trust.
- pavel_lishin 2y ago
  Don't give me that sort of trust, I'm sure I'll find some way to milkshake duck myself.
zug_zug 2y ago
I feel like maybe you're intentionally misunderstanding the point I'm making, because your example kind of illustrates my point: In that case you'd probably find nearly 100% agreement on steak over feces, or salad over feces, or fish over feces. You'd have complete agreement on any alternative to feces. But if you read this thread, it's actually full of people actually saying "I was forced to use [alternative tool] and I prefer Jira". There is no tool that has 100% support over Jira. In fact I'd be surprised if there's a single alternantive to Jira that even 40% of people agree is better.
darepublic 2y ago
I once worked with a surly backend developer at a company where for whatever reason the relationship between front and backend was quite poor. One day we were sitting in a long boring meeting and this guy told a story about how his children learned to talk with one another in preschool. The point was we had failed to achieve what the toddlers had, and this comment garnered a big round of laughs. Later on I filed a bug ticket with backend that was legit and this same developer acknowledged it as such. Then what happened was he and the other backend devs made the endpoint completely non-functional, removing even the workaround I had been using. The ticket stayed in limbo until they got back to me and basically said they could return it to its original buggy state or "explore" the matter further. Not keen on more passive aggressive shenanigans I said just return it back to original form. All this to say that.. making a fun joke that obscures the actual complexity of the problem is a sure way to score points with thoughtless buffoons, but it doesn't mean you aren't a hypocritical jerk and that you're mostly wrong.

Arubis 2y ago

Same point I'm trying to make, but you _absolutely_ win on effect. Well put!

m_rpn 2y ago

Best comment of 2024, maybe even 2025 just on trust.

pavel_lishin 2y ago
Don't give me that sort of trust, I'm sure I'll find some way to milkshake duck myself.

zug_zug 2y ago

I feel like maybe you're intentionally misunderstanding the point I'm making, because your example kind of illustrates my point: In that case you'd probably find nearly 100% agreement on steak over feces, or salad over feces, or fish over feces. You'd have complete agreement on any alternative to feces. But if you read this thread, it's actually full of people actually saying "I was forced to use [alternative tool] and I prefer Jira". There is no tool that has 100% support over Jira. In fact I'd be surprised if there's a single alternantive to Jira that even 40% of people agree is better.

darepublic 2y ago

I once worked with a surly backend developer at a company where for whatever reason the relationship between front and backend was quite poor. One day we were sitting in a long boring meeting and this guy told a story about how his children learned to talk with one another in preschool. The point was we had failed to achieve what the toddlers had, and this comment garnered a big round of laughs. Later on I filed a bug ticket with backend that was legit and this same developer acknowledged it as such. Then what happened was he and the other backend devs made the endpoint completely non-functional, removing even the workaround I had been using. The ticket stayed in limbo until they got back to me and basically said they could return it to its original buggy state or "explore" the matter further. Not keen on more passive aggressive shenanigans I said just return it back to original form. All this to say that.. making a fun joke that obscures the actual complexity of the problem is a sure way to score points with thoughtless buffoons, but it doesn't mean you aren't a hypocritical jerk and that you're mostly wrong.