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I think the departures and switch to for-profit model may point in a different direction: that everyone involved is realizing that OpenAI’s current work is not

I think the departures and switch to for-profit model may point in a different direction: that everyone involved is realizing that OpenAI’s current work is not going to lead to AGI, and it’s also not going to change. So the people who want to work on AGI and safety are leaving to do that work elsewhere, and OpenAI is restructuring to instead focus on wringing as much profit as possible out of their current architecture. Corporations are actually pretty bad at doing tons of different things simultaneously. See the failure of huge conglomerates like GE, as well as the failure of companies like Bell, Xerox, and Microsoft to drive growth with their corporate research labs. OpenAI is now locked into a certain set of technologies and products, which are attracting investment and customers. Better to suck as much out of that fruit as possible while it is ripe.

mnky9800n 2y ago
I feel like it's unfair to expect growth to remain within your walls. bell and Xerox both drove a lot of growth. That growth just left bell and Xerox to go build things like intel and apple. They didn't keep it for themselves and that's a good thing. Could you imagine if the world was really like those old at&t commercials and at&t was actually the ones bringing it to you? I would not want a monolithic at&t providing all technology. https://youtu.be/xBJ2KXa9c6A?si=pB67u56Apj7gdiHa https://youtu.be/xBJ2KXa9c6A?si=pB67u56Apj7gdiHa I do agree with you. They are locked into pulling value out of what they got and they probably aren't going to build something new.
jordanb 2y ago
> See the failure of huge conglomerates like GE GE was a successful company as a major conglomarate which made aircraft engines, railroad locomotives and light bulbs. GE was a failure as a financialized "engine of financial performance" that was focused entirely on spinning off businesses, outsourcing, and speculating in the debt derivatives market.

mnky9800n 2y ago

I feel like it's unfair to expect growth to remain within your walls. bell and Xerox both drove a lot of growth. That growth just left bell and Xerox to go build things like intel and apple. They didn't keep it for themselves and that's a good thing. Could you imagine if the world was really like those old at&t commercials and at&t was actually the ones bringing it to you? I would not want a monolithic at&t providing all technology. https://youtu.be/xBJ2KXa9c6A?si=pB67u56Apj7gdiHa https://youtu.be/xBJ2KXa9c6A?si=pB67u56Apj7gdiHa I do agree with you. They are locked into pulling value out of what they got and they probably aren't going to build something new.

jordanb 2y ago

> See the failure of huge conglomerates like GE GE was a successful company as a major conglomarate which made aircraft engines, railroad locomotives and light bulbs. GE was a failure as a financialized "engine of financial performance" that was focused entirely on spinning off businesses, outsourcing, and speculating in the debt derivatives market.