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> Dismantling OpenAI is actually a business strategy for many other players now. Which ones exactly? NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI. Microsoft &

by tomp 2y ago

> Dismantling OpenAI is actually a business strategy for many other players now. Which ones exactly? NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI. Microsoft & Apple are in cahoots with it. Meta/Facebook seems happy to compete with OpenAI on a fair playing field. Anthropic lacks the resources. Amazon doesn't seem to care. Google is asleep.

moralestapia 2y ago
>NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI. NVIDIA makes money from any company doing AI. I would be surprised if OpenAI was a whole digit percentage of their revenue. >Microsoft & Apple are in cahoots with it. Nope. Apple is using OpenAI to fill holes their current model is not good at. This doesn't sound like a long-term partnership. >Meta/Facebook seems happy to compete with OpenAI on a fair playing field. They want open source models to rule, obliterating proprietary models out of existence, while at it. >Anthropic lacks the resources. Hence why it would be better for them if OpenAI would not exist. It's the same with all other AI companies out there. >Amazon doesn't seem to care. Citation needed, AWS keeps putting out products which are their market leaders, they just don't make a big fuzz about it. >Google is asleep. I'll give you this one. I have no idea why they keep Pichai around.
- cdchn 2y ago
  >I would be surprised if OpenAI was a whole digit percentage of their revenue. As opposed to? The euphemism "I wouldn't be surprised" usually means you think what you're saying. If you negate that you're saying what you _don't_ think is the case? I may be reading too much into whats probably a typo.
  - stonogo 2y ago
    I read it as "I would be surprised if OpenAI were spending enough to consitute even 1% of nVIDIA's revenue."
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- Thrymr 2y ago
  > I would be surprised if OpenAI was a whole digit percentage of their revenue. It is not publicly known how much revenue Nvidia gets from OpenAI, but it is likely more than 1%, and they may be one of the top 4 unnamed customers in their 10Q filing, which would mean at least 10% and $3 billion [0]. That's not nothing. [0] https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nvidia-gets-almost-half-revenue-090000647.html https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nvidia-gets-almost-half-revenue-0...
kranke155 2y ago
Google is asleep? Gemini is the product of a company that's asleep?
- 9dev 2y ago
  Gemini is the product of a company that is still half-asleep. We’re trying to work with it on a big data case, and have seen everything, from missing to downright wrong documentation, missing SDKs and endpoints, random system errors and crashes, clueless support engineers… it’s a mess. OpenAI is miles ahead in terms of ecosystem and platform integration. Google can come up with long context windows and cool demos all they want, OpenAI built a lot of moat while they were busy culling products :)
  - kranke155 2y ago
    Fair enough. I didn't realise it was that bad.
- fourseventy 2y ago
  Gemini thinks the founding fathers of america were black and that the nazis were racially diverse. so ya
- throwup238 2y ago
  You’re right, Gemini is more of a product from a company in a vegetative state.
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photonthug 2y ago
Meta has to be happy someone else is currently looking as sketchy as they are. Thus the business strategy is moving to limit their power and influence as much as possible while also avoiding any appearance of direct competition, and letting the other guy soak up the bad pr. Amazon gets paid either way, because even if open ai doesn’t use them, where are you going to cloud your api that’s talking with open ai? If open ai looks weakened I think we’ll see everyone else has a service they want you to try. But there’s no use in making much noise about that, especially during an election year. No matter who wins, all the rejected everywhere will blame AI, and who knows what that will look like. So, sit back and wait for the leader of the pack to absorb all the damage.

by tomp 2y ago

moralestapia 2y ago

>NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI. NVIDIA makes money from any company doing AI. I would be surprised if OpenAI was a whole digit percentage of their revenue. >Microsoft & Apple are in cahoots with it. Nope. Apple is using OpenAI to fill holes their current model is not good at. This doesn't sound like a long-term partnership. >Meta/Facebook seems happy to compete with OpenAI on a fair playing field. They want open source models to rule, obliterating proprietary models out of existence, while at it. >Anthropic lacks the resources. Hence why it would be better for them if OpenAI would not exist. It's the same with all other AI companies out there. >Amazon doesn't seem to care. Citation needed, AWS keeps putting out products which are their market leaders, they just don't make a big fuzz about it. >Google is asleep. I'll give you this one. I have no idea why they keep Pichai around.

cdchn 2y ago
>I would be surprised if OpenAI was a whole digit percentage of their revenue. As opposed to? The euphemism "I wouldn't be surprised" usually means you think what you're saying. If you negate that you're saying what you _don't_ think is the case? I may be reading too much into whats probably a typo.
- stonogo 2y ago
  I read it as "I would be surprised if OpenAI were spending enough to consitute even 1% of nVIDIA's revenue."
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Thrymr 2y ago
> I would be surprised if OpenAI was a whole digit percentage of their revenue. It is not publicly known how much revenue Nvidia gets from OpenAI, but it is likely more than 1%, and they may be one of the top 4 unnamed customers in their 10Q filing, which would mean at least 10% and $3 billion [0]. That's not nothing. [0] https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nvidia-gets-almost-half-revenue-090000647.html https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nvidia-gets-almost-half-revenue-0...

kranke155 2y ago

Google is asleep? Gemini is the product of a company that's asleep?

9dev 2y ago
Gemini is the product of a company that is still half-asleep. We’re trying to work with it on a big data case, and have seen everything, from missing to downright wrong documentation, missing SDKs and endpoints, random system errors and crashes, clueless support engineers… it’s a mess. OpenAI is miles ahead in terms of ecosystem and platform integration. Google can come up with long context windows and cool demos all they want, OpenAI built a lot of moat while they were busy culling products :)
- kranke155 2y ago
  Fair enough. I didn't realise it was that bad.
fourseventy 2y ago
Gemini thinks the founding fathers of america were black and that the nazis were racially diverse. so ya
throwup238 2y ago
You’re right, Gemini is more of a product from a company in a vegetative state.
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photonthug 2y ago

Meta has to be happy someone else is currently looking as sketchy as they are. Thus the business strategy is moving to limit their power and influence as much as possible while also avoiding any appearance of direct competition, and letting the other guy soak up the bad pr. Amazon gets paid either way, because even if open ai doesn’t use them, where are you going to cloud your api that’s talking with open ai? If open ai looks weakened I think we’ll see everyone else has a service they want you to try. But there’s no use in making much noise about that, especially during an election year. No matter who wins, all the rejected everywhere will blame AI, and who knows what that will look like. So, sit back and wait for the leader of the pack to absorb all the damage.