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A lot of devs are just having the assumption that managers are useless fakers that bring nothing. It's not an assumption. It's reasoned inference obtained thr

A lot of devs are just having the assumption that managers are useless fakers that bring nothing. It's not an assumption. It's reasoned inference obtained through extensive observation. And it's not "managers" in general, of course. Just the ones who have no idea how to operate other than through Scrum. But my point is that it is just physically impossible to not deviate if you don't get feedback. It's not that no one wants "feedback". Rather, the perception has emerged that the rituals of Scrum are a pretty lousy (and basically counterproductive) way of delivering that feedback. because of this disease, I need to take my pill every morning, Except it turns out the "pill" in this case is a quack cure, basically. That's why people are resistant to taking it.

cauch 2y ago
What a very balanced opinion that will not at all reenforce my idea that some devs are just idiots blaming managers for everything. Managers that micromanage are idiots. If they would have been a dev, they would have been a dev that explains that all managers are obviously useless. > Except it turns out the "pill" in this case is a quack cure, basically. That's why people are resistant to taking it. The analogy flew very high above your head. I was responding to the logic "if it's daily, it's the proof it's because they believe we are aimless creatures that need to be managed". I just give an example where someone is asked to do something daily, and yet it is clearly not because of that.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  A dev that explains that all managers are obviously useless. You keep coming back to this caricature. And yet, I've never met anyone with this opinion. I just give an example where someone is asked to do something daily, and yet it is clearly not because of that. Right, you said they were being asked to (in reality: made to, not "asked to") do that because they effectively had a "disease". When management takes that attitude about its rare and precious talent, well, all bets are off.

cauch 2y ago

What a very balanced opinion that will not at all reenforce my idea that some devs are just idiots blaming managers for everything. Managers that micromanage are idiots. If they would have been a dev, they would have been a dev that explains that all managers are obviously useless. > Except it turns out the "pill" in this case is a quack cure, basically. That's why people are resistant to taking it. The analogy flew very high above your head. I was responding to the logic "if it's daily, it's the proof it's because they believe we are aimless creatures that need to be managed". I just give an example where someone is asked to do something daily, and yet it is clearly not because of that.

aguaviva 2y ago
A dev that explains that all managers are obviously useless. You keep coming back to this caricature. And yet, I've never met anyone with this opinion. I just give an example where someone is asked to do something daily, and yet it is clearly not because of that. Right, you said they were being asked to (in reality: made to, not "asked to") do that because they effectively had a "disease". When management takes that attitude about its rare and precious talent, well, all bets are off.