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The non-profit side is just there to attract talent and encourage them to work harder b/c it's for humanity. Obviously people sniffed out the facts, realized it

The non-profit side is just there to attract talent and encourage them to work harder b/c it's for humanity. Obviously people sniffed out the facts, realized it was all for profit and that lead to an exodus.

fakedang 2y ago
Funnily, I think all the non-profit motivated talent has left, and the people left behind are those who stand to (and want to) make a killing when OpenAI becomes a for-profit. And that talent is in the majority - nothing else would explain the show of support for Altman when he was kicked out.
- Gud 2y ago
  What “show of support”? Not willing to rock the boat is not the same as being supportive.
  - fakedang 2y ago
    What were all those open letter and "let's jump to Microsoft with Altman" shenanigans that the employees were carrying out then?
    - Gud 2y ago
      Why wouldn't they, if everyone else is? Bills to pay, etc. Low level employees are there for the money, not for the drama.
    - jprete 2y ago
      I read at the time that there was massive coordinated pressure on the rank and file from the upper levels of the company. When you combine that with OpenAI clawing back vested equity even from people who voluntarily leave, the 95% support means nothing at all.
      - tedsanders 2y ago
        Nah, there was not massive coordinated pressure. I was one of the ~5% who didn't sign. I got a couple of late-night DMs asking if I had seen the doc and was going to sign it. I said no; although I agreed with the spirit of the doc, I didn't agree with all of its particulars. People were fine with that, didn't push me, and there were zero repercussions afterward.
        jprete 2y ago
        Thanks for the response.
  - doctorpangloss 2y ago
    My dude, it was the biggest, most dramatic crisis in OpenAI’s short history so far. There was no choice, “don’t rock the boat.”
wheels 2y ago
Kind of like everyone's favorite interior design non-profit, IKEA. (Seriously. It's a non-profit. It's bonkers.)

fakedang 2y ago

Funnily, I think all the non-profit motivated talent has left, and the people left behind are those who stand to (and want to) make a killing when OpenAI becomes a for-profit. And that talent is in the majority - nothing else would explain the show of support for Altman when he was kicked out.

Gud 2y ago
What “show of support”? Not willing to rock the boat is not the same as being supportive.
- fakedang 2y ago
  What were all those open letter and "let's jump to Microsoft with Altman" shenanigans that the employees were carrying out then?
  - Gud 2y ago
    Why wouldn't they, if everyone else is? Bills to pay, etc. Low level employees are there for the money, not for the drama.
  - jprete 2y ago
    I read at the time that there was massive coordinated pressure on the rank and file from the upper levels of the company. When you combine that with OpenAI clawing back vested equity even from people who voluntarily leave, the 95% support means nothing at all.
    - tedsanders 2y ago
      Nah, there was not massive coordinated pressure. I was one of the ~5% who didn't sign. I got a couple of late-night DMs asking if I had seen the doc and was going to sign it. I said no; although I agreed with the spirit of the doc, I didn't agree with all of its particulars. People were fine with that, didn't push me, and there were zero repercussions afterward.
      - jprete 2y ago
        Thanks for the response.
- doctorpangloss 2y ago
  My dude, it was the biggest, most dramatic crisis in OpenAI’s short history so far. There was no choice, “don’t rock the boat.”

wheels 2y ago

Kind of like everyone's favorite interior design non-profit, IKEA. (Seriously. It's a non-profit. It's bonkers.)