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> What happened is that some kid phoned up helpdesk and said they were x and they had lost their phone, can you please help me to reset my password and 2fa (bec
by lol768 2y ago
> What happened is that some kid phoned up helpdesk and said they were x and they had lost their phone, can you please help me to reset my password and 2fa (because the phone was nicked, its standard operating procedure right?)
Then the policies that they had in place for these eventualities were insufficient.
> From there they managed to SSO into critical shit.
We're all speculating here without many details of what actually happened, but the questions I'd be asking are:
- Was the person whose account was compromised somebody that needed to routinely have access to Oyster card refund information?
- Was the person whose account was compromised somebody that needed to routinely have access to Oyster card refund information for a handful of customers, as part of working in a support role?
- Was the person whose account was compromised somebody that needed to have access to Oyster card refund for five thousand distinct customers, accessed in a very short timeframe? Why didn't security controls exist that prevented exfiltration of those volumes of data?
- Why were TfL directly storing bank account details in the first place when there are better-equipped partners who have experience securing data that could have handled this?
- Why is TfL so awful at providing Oyster refunds in the first place? They could very easily make it so you could get refunds back onto a Debit/Credit card (without needing to store the PAN), but instead the only options they give you are bank account/sort code (which have to be given over the phone) or back onto the Oyster card - needing to be physically collected within 3 to 4 days or the refund gets "lost" - completely useless if you don't live in London.
> that shit is _hard_, even harder for a safety critical place like TFL. They have something like 40k employees, and a whole bunch of disparate systems.
I don't care, it's not good enough. Everybody in London has no choice but to share some amounts of data with TfL if they want to use the transport system. They've shown they're incompetent time and time again. They can't do the work they've committed to do on-time either, and we pay them shedloads of public funds for this level of service.
- switch007 2y ago> They could very easily make it so you could get refunds back onto a Debit/Credit card (without needing to store the PAN), but instead the only options they give you are bank account/sort code (which have to be given over the phone) or back onto the Oyster card - needing to be physically collected within 3 to 4 days or the refund gets "lost" - completely useless if you don't live in London. Absolutely this. The reply sounds quite harsh and angry towards TfL but people pay A LOT money for the system. It is the most expensive metro system in the world. Expectations are understandably high.