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You see, the "struggle" in learning that comes from trying to form concepts out of text you read from books or from teacher's voices you listen in school instea

You see, the "struggle" in learning that comes from trying to form concepts out of text you read from books or from teacher's voices you listen in school instead of a complete audiovisual intuitive feed like VR will provide, is actually necessary. Your children will get impaired if they don't build the skill to learn from non-tech methods. Schools in India (and mostly Asia) enforce chalkboard and pen-and-paper methods of instruction at all levels, and I believe kids are better off for it. Ed-tech had insane hype in India at one point, with startup players getting billion-dollar evaluations, and it turned out to be a massive bubble that burst and broke the country's startup economy. I believe one of the main reason for that is that ed-tech solutions simply aren't as effective as they are imagined to be.

getwiththeprog 2y ago
Ed-tech will not work in schools until people (teachers) learn to use technology properly. Simply putting on videos for kids (as you say) cannot replace all the skills the traditional model gives us.
- dartharva 2y ago
  No. I am saying the opposite. The better edtech gets and the better "experiences" it provides, the worse it will be for the children's development as they will impair their ability to think and learn for themselves. Learning from reading and writing is superior because it enforces higher conscious engagement at the part of the students. The friction and struggles are important. What you are saying will make them consume information, not learn.
  - seabass-labrax 2y ago
    Reading and writing don't necessarily enforce higher conscious engagement than any other medium. Take for example music: one can read about how a musical instrument works, even write about how a musical instrument works, but neither is remotely comparable to the conscious engagement required to play the instrument. I grew up around the golden age of 'edutainment' produced by publishers such as Dorling Kindersley. They released books with full-colour illustrations, video cassettes, interactive computer software and games on specific topics that all complemented each other. What's particularly special about this is how the same information can be taught effectively to different children, each with their own unique characteristics. The curriculum is consistent even though the leaning style is allowed to vary. So yes, the struggles are important, but there's no reason to miss the opportunity to learn in another way while one overcomes these struggles.
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    - dartharva 2y ago
      I enjoyed DK encyclopedias in my childhood too. Also had a full set of Britannica CDs. But do these qualify as ed-tech when they are not being used institutionally? Wasn't the original comment about using VR/AR solutions in classrooms?

getwiththeprog 2y ago

Ed-tech will not work in schools until people (teachers) learn to use technology properly. Simply putting on videos for kids (as you say) cannot replace all the skills the traditional model gives us.

dartharva 2y ago
No. I am saying the opposite. The better edtech gets and the better "experiences" it provides, the worse it will be for the children's development as they will impair their ability to think and learn for themselves. Learning from reading and writing is superior because it enforces higher conscious engagement at the part of the students. The friction and struggles are important. What you are saying will make them consume information, not learn.
- seabass-labrax 2y ago
  Reading and writing don't necessarily enforce higher conscious engagement than any other medium. Take for example music: one can read about how a musical instrument works, even write about how a musical instrument works, but neither is remotely comparable to the conscious engagement required to play the instrument. I grew up around the golden age of 'edutainment' produced by publishers such as Dorling Kindersley. They released books with full-colour illustrations, video cassettes, interactive computer software and games on specific topics that all complemented each other. What's particularly special about this is how the same information can be taught effectively to different children, each with their own unique characteristics. The curriculum is consistent even though the leaning style is allowed to vary. So yes, the struggles are important, but there's no reason to miss the opportunity to learn in another way while one overcomes these struggles.
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  - dartharva 2y ago
    I enjoyed DK encyclopedias in my childhood too. Also had a full set of Britannica CDs. But do these qualify as ed-tech when they are not being used institutionally? Wasn't the original comment about using VR/AR solutions in classrooms?