You know, I agree And there's a lot of things that are weird or clunky I honestly don't "get" the "no classes, just struct methods thing" and while, sure, C++

You know, I agree And there's a lot of things that are weird or clunky I honestly don't "get" the "no classes, just struct methods thing" and while, sure, C++ is kinda like that, but the ergonomics are weird. I'd much rather have the class/methods declaration as most languages do Lifetimes are good but the implementation is meh. Most cases could do with a default lifetime. Copy/borrow strictness is good to think about but in most cases we don't care? Copy should probably the default and then you borrow in special cases