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Complex solution to a simple problem. Just ban ads in cities. Like some cities have already done. Then the ads that are left are just for stuff that is importan

Complex solution to a simple problem. Just ban ads in cities. Like some cities have already done. Then the ads that are left are just for stuff that is important, e.g. events, music, etc. No need for AI filtering algorithms that have to decide what to block and what to leave.

keiferski 2y ago
Probably impossible in the US at least, as it would be considered a first amendment violation.
- vincnetas 2y ago
  Is graffiti also freedom of speech? If i have a wall does it mean i can write whatever i want on it? I guess not. These are social norms. And we could decide that advertisement is not ok in public spaces like it's not ok to walk around naked.
  - keiferski 2y ago
    Not an equivalent situation at all. Graffiti makers don’t have billions of dollars to hire lawyers that challenge laws that ban advertising. Society increasingly runs less and less on social norms and more on laws.
  - drbscl 2y ago
    Graffiti is illegal because it involves damaging property, not because of its textual / visual content...
    - vincnetas 2y ago
      But if i had a wall (own), could i write anything i want on it?
- kn0where 2y ago
  Plenty of US cities and towns have regulations prohibiting billboards.
  - keiferski 2y ago
    Interesting, I didn’t know that. Maybe it would be possible legally then, although I imagine that NYC would be a tough place to get it passed.
_flux 2y ago
On the other hand, your solution requires a lot of people to agree and possibly turn away some money, whereas the AR solution (once available) can be individually applied without any decisions by others; only for the one person to decide whether to buy it or not (if they have the money). So it's not that clear to me which one of these is complex and which simple.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  Oh no, what a pain, to make changes to the world based on a broad consensus of opinions, rather than relying on rapacious billionaires to helpfully put their surveillance device into all of our hands without our permission.
- crabmusket 2y ago
  Turn away from the public, turn away from democratic participation, turn inward into your own curated world.

keiferski 2y ago

Probably impossible in the US at least, as it would be considered a first amendment violation.

vincnetas 2y ago
Is graffiti also freedom of speech? If i have a wall does it mean i can write whatever i want on it? I guess not. These are social norms. And we could decide that advertisement is not ok in public spaces like it's not ok to walk around naked.
- keiferski 2y ago
  Not an equivalent situation at all. Graffiti makers don’t have billions of dollars to hire lawyers that challenge laws that ban advertising. Society increasingly runs less and less on social norms and more on laws.
- drbscl 2y ago
  Graffiti is illegal because it involves damaging property, not because of its textual / visual content...
  - vincnetas 2y ago
    But if i had a wall (own), could i write anything i want on it?
kn0where 2y ago
Plenty of US cities and towns have regulations prohibiting billboards.
- keiferski 2y ago
  Interesting, I didn’t know that. Maybe it would be possible legally then, although I imagine that NYC would be a tough place to get it passed.

_flux 2y ago

On the other hand, your solution requires a lot of people to agree and possibly turn away some money, whereas the AR solution (once available) can be individually applied without any decisions by others; only for the one person to decide whether to buy it or not (if they have the money). So it's not that clear to me which one of these is complex and which simple.

mrguyorama 2y ago
Oh no, what a pain, to make changes to the world based on a broad consensus of opinions, rather than relying on rapacious billionaires to helpfully put their surveillance device into all of our hands without our permission.
crabmusket 2y ago
Turn away from the public, turn away from democratic participation, turn inward into your own curated world.