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I am extremely sceptical of this because I follow the research for tinnitus and last year a brilliant study came out showing that Tinnitus appears to be caused

I am extremely sceptical of this because I follow the research for tinnitus and last year a brilliant study came out showing that Tinnitus appears to be caused by the brainstem being overdriven to compensate for nerve damage. I suspect the brainstem being inflamed, which happens in a variety of conditions cause (Long Covid among many others), could likely do this without the nerve damage and also cause auditory sensitivity as a result. People have been trying these movements and other treatments based on the fundamental premise of "brain retraining" and they have never shown and efficacy. Whereas a surgery on a damaged nerve has already been shown to completely eliminate the condition in a person and it looks very likely this will be the answer in the coming years. https://scitechdaily.com/tinnitus-linked-to-hidden-undetected-auditory-nerve-damage-a-step-towards-a-cure/ https://scitechdaily.com/tinnitus-linked-to-hidden-undetecte...

striking 2y ago
> they have never shown and efficacy The introduction alone cites 12 other human / animal studies. I don't see why this paper necessarily contradicts your hypothesis (setting aside the fact that evidence of surgery curing tinnitus is not present at the link you included). In fact, later in your link: > “The idea that one day, researchers might be able to bring back the missing sound to the brain and, perhaps, reduce its hyperactivity in conjunction with retraining, definitely brings the hope of a cure closer to reality,” Maison added.
excalibur 2y ago
My tinnitus was definitely caused by the same nerve damage that caused my hearing loss. I'd be happy with improvement in either. The article you linked mentions a potential treatment using neurotrophins (drugs) to regenerate the auditory nerve, but you mentioned some sort of surgery. Is that a different surgical approach being developed in tandem?
- PaulKeeble 2y ago
  It was an injection of stem cells directly on the nerve. They found an appropriate surgical method to put them into the right place. The author of this study contacted me about it shortly after but I can't share the case study yet. There is a group working on it, likely many things it might not pan out and one surgery is not enough to get it approved but its certainly a start. There may be other cheaper ways too with general drugs that are cheaper if they can promote the recreation of the nerves.
iJohnDoe 2y ago
FWIW, my tinnitus has always felt strongly linked to my neck. If I sleep with my neck in a bad position, my tinnitus is raging when I wake up.
- paulmooreparks 2y ago
  Exactly the same here. Glad to hear someone else experiences this. (Edit: I'm not _glad_ that you experience this, just relieved to know it's not just me.)
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
  Same for me, also highly related to stress, which often affects the neck.
AceyMan 2y ago
I have tinnitus "out of nowhere" at age 57. But now I find out I have a severely herniated disc impinging on my sciatica — not the brain stem, but — related?

striking 2y ago

> they have never shown and efficacy The introduction alone cites 12 other human / animal studies. I don't see why this paper necessarily contradicts your hypothesis (setting aside the fact that evidence of surgery curing tinnitus is not present at the link you included). In fact, later in your link: > “The idea that one day, researchers might be able to bring back the missing sound to the brain and, perhaps, reduce its hyperactivity in conjunction with retraining, definitely brings the hope of a cure closer to reality,” Maison added.

excalibur 2y ago

My tinnitus was definitely caused by the same nerve damage that caused my hearing loss. I'd be happy with improvement in either. The article you linked mentions a potential treatment using neurotrophins (drugs) to regenerate the auditory nerve, but you mentioned some sort of surgery. Is that a different surgical approach being developed in tandem?

PaulKeeble 2y ago
It was an injection of stem cells directly on the nerve. They found an appropriate surgical method to put them into the right place. The author of this study contacted me about it shortly after but I can't share the case study yet. There is a group working on it, likely many things it might not pan out and one surgery is not enough to get it approved but its certainly a start. There may be other cheaper ways too with general drugs that are cheaper if they can promote the recreation of the nerves.

iJohnDoe 2y ago

FWIW, my tinnitus has always felt strongly linked to my neck. If I sleep with my neck in a bad position, my tinnitus is raging when I wake up.

paulmooreparks 2y ago
Exactly the same here. Glad to hear someone else experiences this. (Edit: I'm not _glad_ that you experience this, just relieved to know it's not just me.)
Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y ago
Same for me, also highly related to stress, which often affects the neck.

AceyMan 2y ago

I have tinnitus "out of nowhere" at age 57. But now I find out I have a severely herniated disc impinging on my sciatica — not the brain stem, but — related?