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Having discussed this same question with the more experienced members of my team, the only conclusion I can draw is that the customer (US Government) is incredi

Having discussed this same question with the more experienced members of my team, the only conclusion I can draw is that the customer (US Government) is incredibly risk averse. Any unexpected entry into safemode would require a report, multiple meetings with the customer, and them being pretty angry. Their line of reasoning seems to be "Safemode->Something is wrong->Why is something wrong? We're not paying you to be wrong". I'm personally of the opinion that safemode isn't that bad. It's fully recoverable and shows the system is working properly. We normally have a Functional Test Assembly (real computer and some other hardware for testing) to run our tests against, but we only have one setup and it is consistently unreliable. This particular CLT was unable to get a clean run in the lab but it was decided that the issues were related to the lab setup rather than the actual test, so we moved forward to run on the satellite (against our team's protests). This to me is the real crux of the issue: if we can't even trust our own testing environment, what's the point of having it at all? If the customer is so risk averse, why would we take this chance? Needless to say, I don't think we'll be running anything on the satellite without full FTA vetting anytime in the near future.

Jtsummers 2y ago
> Any unexpected entry into safemode would require a report, multiple meetings with the customer, and them being pretty angry. Their line of reasoning seems to be "Safemode->Something is wrong->Why is something wrong? We're not paying you to be wrong". I'm personally of the opinion that safemode isn't that bad. It's fully recoverable and shows the system is working properly. To the last part first: Good that safe mode kicked in and did the right thing, but now what? What caused it to enter safe mode in the first place? That's why they care when it happens. If they don't know why it's entering safe mode, they can't correct the actual problems in the system.
- axus 2y ago
  "Safemode is when all non critical functions are automatically shut down and the satellite becomes entirely focused on generating power by pointing its solar panels towards the Sun and trying to reestablish any communication that was lost." The non-critical functions are all the things the customer actually bought the satellite for. Cool that it's still alive, but now the Space Internet / death lasers / etc. are offline.
- linebeck 2y ago
  There are faults IDs that trip if certain telemetry goes outside of a normal range. If a safemode were to occur, we would investigate which faults tripped and at what time, and use those to construct a "story" of what happened on the satellite before it entered safemode. We're also constantly recording every telemetry that comes down, so we could reference any telemetry we wanted as far back as months in the past. To your point, yes you're correct. The cause of the safemode is much more interesting than the fact we entered it.
minetest2048 2y ago
> We normally have a Functional Test Assembly (real computer and some other hardware for testing) to run our tests against, but we only have one setup and it is consistently unreliable Its interesting to see that someone with a 2B budget have the same problem as someome with 5 million budget... we have an engineering model for our cubesats but its flaky

Jtsummers 2y ago

> Any unexpected entry into safemode would require a report, multiple meetings with the customer, and them being pretty angry. Their line of reasoning seems to be "Safemode->Something is wrong->Why is something wrong? We're not paying you to be wrong". I'm personally of the opinion that safemode isn't that bad. It's fully recoverable and shows the system is working properly. To the last part first: Good that safe mode kicked in and did the right thing, but now what? What caused it to enter safe mode in the first place? That's why they care when it happens. If they don't know why it's entering safe mode, they can't correct the actual problems in the system.

axus 2y ago
"Safemode is when all non critical functions are automatically shut down and the satellite becomes entirely focused on generating power by pointing its solar panels towards the Sun and trying to reestablish any communication that was lost." The non-critical functions are all the things the customer actually bought the satellite for. Cool that it's still alive, but now the Space Internet / death lasers / etc. are offline.
linebeck 2y ago
There are faults IDs that trip if certain telemetry goes outside of a normal range. If a safemode were to occur, we would investigate which faults tripped and at what time, and use those to construct a "story" of what happened on the satellite before it entered safemode. We're also constantly recording every telemetry that comes down, so we could reference any telemetry we wanted as far back as months in the past. To your point, yes you're correct. The cause of the safemode is much more interesting than the fact we entered it.

minetest2048 2y ago

> We normally have a Functional Test Assembly (real computer and some other hardware for testing) to run our tests against, but we only have one setup and it is consistently unreliable Its interesting to see that someone with a 2B budget have the same problem as someome with 5 million budget... we have an engineering model for our cubesats but its flaky