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Wanna see the first prototypes for mobile phones? And even then it's really good compared to a Quest, but def. not good enough if you're going to wear this on t

by baby 2y ago

Wanna see the first prototypes for mobile phones? And even then it's really good compared to a Quest, but def. not good enough if you're going to wear this on the daily

neom 2y ago
My dad ran a hospital and literally had one of these things: https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/IMG_9034.JPG https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/IMG_... - Things seem to move so quickly these days I'd guess the Orion things will be reasonable to buy in 6/7 years. Getting old sucks!
stevage 2y ago
The benefit of a mobile phone was extremely obvious to everyone as soon as you said what it was. I've been reading about AR for years and I still have no idea how, if at all, I would use it. Never really come across a use case that's compelling for me. Getting WhatsApp messages without taking my phone out of my pocket feels like the opposite to the direction I'd like to move in.
- jfim 2y ago
  You could have things overlaid on top of real life content in order to provide you assistance, hands free. For example, think about GPS turn by turn navigation while walking or having a recipe displayed while cooking it.
  - Loughla 2y ago
    Facial recognition is the killer app for me. Being able to keep track of people and their information would be amazing.
    - tonypace 2y ago
      The problem is that people would really dislike that. It's even satirized in Snow Crash in an extremely unflattering portrayal of the kind of person who would routinely do this.
  - stevage 2y ago
    The first use case is negative for me, aszit would further increase my reliance on technology. The second, yeah, maybe, if it was done incredibly well. but marginal benefit over an iPad or similar.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  >I've been reading about AR for years and I still have no idea how, if at all, I would use it. I do: to display a moving map from Google Maps while cycling. It'd be incredibly handy for navigation in a city. Everyone these days uses a navigation app in their car to navigate (esp. to unfamiliar destinations), but how do you do that on a bicycle? You can get one of those phone mounts for your handlebars, but it's really clunky, and difficult (or impossible) to see in bright sunlight. Plus, in my experience, phones tended to fall out of them, as it was hard to find a mount that would fit a modern-size (read: large) phone; they seem to all be designed with 2010-model phones in mind.
  - stevage 2y ago
    Not to be a shill, but you obviously haven't come across Quadlock which completely solves the mount problem at least.
    - shiroiushi 2y ago
      Ok, I looked this up but there's a big problem here: it only works with certain phone models (and requires using their case). There is a "universal" option which basically glues a part to your existing phone or case, but this only works on certain case materials, and rubber isn't one of them (so no Otterboxes allowed). (Also, no polypropylene, polyethylene, or silicone.) So it might or might not work, depending on your phone and case. But it doesn't solve the visibility problem: good luck seeing your screen in direct sunlight. And also the problem where you have to look down at your handlebards, refocus your eyes for close-up vision (this is really bad if you're over ~40 due to presbyopia), and try to make out the info on the screen, and not get hit by a car or run into a pedestrian or other road hazard. If you're navigating inside a dense city, this sounds positively dangerous. AR glasses would fix all of this.
      - stevage 2y ago
        Well, it works well for my phone. I don't have a big problem with seeing the screen in sunlight. Looking down is definitely an issue, but not for simply following a route. In fact, for turn by turn nav, I prefer audio. And no, I'm not interested in your opinions about the safety of that :) AR glasses might work better, but they'd introduce other issues, like conflicting with sunglasses and helmet. Plus a huge expense. I suspect for me even if I owned such a thing I would rarely use it for this case.
- baby 2y ago
  > The benefit of a mobile phone was extremely obvious to everyone as soon as you said what it was. I would say the same about AR. I'm surprised by your comment. Lately I've been using it a lot when shopping for furnitures (to place the furniture in my space and see how it fits, amazon and a bunch of furniture places let you do that).

by baby 2y ago

Wanna see the first prototypes for mobile phones? And even then it's really good compared to a Quest, but def. not good enough if you're going to wear this on the daily

neom 2y ago

My dad ran a hospital and literally had one of these things: https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/IMG_9034.JPG https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/IMG_... - Things seem to move so quickly these days I'd guess the Orion things will be reasonable to buy in 6/7 years. Getting old sucks!

stevage 2y ago

The benefit of a mobile phone was extremely obvious to everyone as soon as you said what it was. I've been reading about AR for years and I still have no idea how, if at all, I would use it. Never really come across a use case that's compelling for me. Getting WhatsApp messages without taking my phone out of my pocket feels like the opposite to the direction I'd like to move in.

jfim 2y ago
You could have things overlaid on top of real life content in order to provide you assistance, hands free. For example, think about GPS turn by turn navigation while walking or having a recipe displayed while cooking it.
- Loughla 2y ago
  Facial recognition is the killer app for me. Being able to keep track of people and their information would be amazing.
  - tonypace 2y ago
    The problem is that people would really dislike that. It's even satirized in Snow Crash in an extremely unflattering portrayal of the kind of person who would routinely do this.
- stevage 2y ago
  The first use case is negative for me, aszit would further increase my reliance on technology. The second, yeah, maybe, if it was done incredibly well. but marginal benefit over an iPad or similar.
shiroiushi 2y ago
>I've been reading about AR for years and I still have no idea how, if at all, I would use it. I do: to display a moving map from Google Maps while cycling. It'd be incredibly handy for navigation in a city. Everyone these days uses a navigation app in their car to navigate (esp. to unfamiliar destinations), but how do you do that on a bicycle? You can get one of those phone mounts for your handlebars, but it's really clunky, and difficult (or impossible) to see in bright sunlight. Plus, in my experience, phones tended to fall out of them, as it was hard to find a mount that would fit a modern-size (read: large) phone; they seem to all be designed with 2010-model phones in mind.
- stevage 2y ago
  Not to be a shill, but you obviously haven't come across Quadlock which completely solves the mount problem at least.
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    Ok, I looked this up but there's a big problem here: it only works with certain phone models (and requires using their case). There is a "universal" option which basically glues a part to your existing phone or case, but this only works on certain case materials, and rubber isn't one of them (so no Otterboxes allowed). (Also, no polypropylene, polyethylene, or silicone.) So it might or might not work, depending on your phone and case. But it doesn't solve the visibility problem: good luck seeing your screen in direct sunlight. And also the problem where you have to look down at your handlebards, refocus your eyes for close-up vision (this is really bad if you're over ~40 due to presbyopia), and try to make out the info on the screen, and not get hit by a car or run into a pedestrian or other road hazard. If you're navigating inside a dense city, this sounds positively dangerous. AR glasses would fix all of this.
    - stevage 2y ago
      Well, it works well for my phone. I don't have a big problem with seeing the screen in sunlight. Looking down is definitely an issue, but not for simply following a route. In fact, for turn by turn nav, I prefer audio. And no, I'm not interested in your opinions about the safety of that :) AR glasses might work better, but they'd introduce other issues, like conflicting with sunglasses and helmet. Plus a huge expense. I suspect for me even if I owned such a thing I would rarely use it for this case.
baby 2y ago
> The benefit of a mobile phone was extremely obvious to everyone as soon as you said what it was. I would say the same about AR. I'm surprised by your comment. Lately I've been using it a lot when shopping for furnitures (to place the furniture in my space and see how it fits, amazon and a bunch of furniture places let you do that).