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I wonder if that's precisely the sentiment that has been part of the reason the USA has become the country with the highest % of incarcerated people. You wonde

I wonder if that's precisely the sentiment that has been part of the reason the USA has become the country with the highest % of incarcerated people. You wonder? You could have done a little research and found that prisons in the US aren't filled with people that stole 11 billion dollars and got more than 2 years in prison. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2024.html https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2024.html This site has useful graphs but I don't see a category for stealing 11 billion dollars.

UncleMeat 2y ago
Yes, a very large number of people are in prisons for stealing far far far less money. But the motivation of seeing punishment as itself a good thing rather than a thing that achieves a downstream outcome overlaps. There are other reasons for mass incarceration in the US too (perpetuation of racial hierarchies is a big one), but "people who do bad things should just be crushed" is a key element.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  Yes, a very large number of people are in prisons for stealing far far far less money. Most people are in prison for violent crimes, then some for drugs, then theft. But the motivation of seeing punishment as itself a good thing rather than a thing that achieves a downstream outcome overlaps. I don't know what exactly you mean by this, but maybe we should be an evolved and caring society and let everyone out of jail and prison because punishment is cruel. but "people who do bad things should just be crushed" is a key element. Let's be clear that someone who stole 11 billion dollars going away for 2 years is not "being crushed". Almost anyone on the planet would go to prison for 2 years just to be able to invest 11 billion for a few years and give back the principle. At only 4%, that's 440 million dollars a year or $1.2 million a day.

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I wonder if that's precisely the sentiment that has been part of the reason the USA has become the country with the highest % of incarcerated people. You wonde

by CyberDildonics 2y ago

UncleMeat 2y ago
Yes, a very large number of people are in prisons for stealing far far far less money. But the motivation of seeing punishment as itself a good thing rather than a thing that achieves a downstream outcome overlaps. There are other reasons for mass incarceration in the US too (perpetuation of racial hierarchies is a big one), but "people who do bad things should just be crushed" is a key element.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  Yes, a very large number of people are in prisons for stealing far far far less money. Most people are in prison for violent crimes, then some for drugs, then theft. But the motivation of seeing punishment as itself a good thing rather than a thing that achieves a downstream outcome overlaps. I don't know what exactly you mean by this, but maybe we should be an evolved and caring society and let everyone out of jail and prison because punishment is cruel. but "people who do bad things should just be crushed" is a key element. Let's be clear that someone who stole 11 billion dollars going away for 2 years is not "being crushed". Almost anyone on the planet would go to prison for 2 years just to be able to invest 11 billion for a few years and give back the principle. At only 4%, that's 440 million dollars a year or $1.2 million a day.