> For example, Apple's Music app is surely "native", but does not appear to use the DEs default elements, and performs like an electron app might. For the grey

> For example, Apple's Music app is surely "native", but does not appear to use the DEs default elements, and performs like an electron app might. For the grey beards of MacOS: This guy trashes the HIG [Apple Human Interface Guide] the way Johnny Depp trashes a hotel room. He even sports a custom radius on his window corners. No other window on the system has a shape like this. It’s wild. Just wait until the HIG zealots get a load of this guy. https://daringfireball.net/2005/09/anthropomorphized https://daringfireball.net/2005/09/anthropomorphized