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It’s the Silicon Valley wannabe intellectualism that has somehow allied itself with contrarianism. They just reflexively think the consensus view is wrong beca
by llamaimperative 2y ago
It’s the Silicon Valley wannabe intellectualism that has somehow allied itself with contrarianism.
They just reflexively think the consensus view is wrong because daddy Thiel said you can make big money that way.
“The Contrarians”, of course, is its own silly tribe of lemmings that produces its opinions from its identity first and foremost.
- alephnerd 2y ago> Silicon Valley wannabe intellectualism I've noticed the fringe hot takes tends to occur around this time of day on HN, which is 5am in SV (some of us wake up very early to run/bike without getting run over, as well as answer EMEA emails). Most users at this time of day are European (who tend to be German, Eastern European, and British ime) and some East Coasters. Mainstream HN doesn't kick in until 4-5 hours from now.
- ajfhag 2y agoI would say that Europeans are entitled to describe the actual weather in Europe as opposed to the SV narrative of it.
- Tainnor 2y agoI have no idea what GP was trying to say with his "it's mostly European users" comment, but as a European who does worry about climate change, I don't think that climate change denialism is somehow less extreme in the US than in Europe.
- alephnerd 2y ago> "it's mostly European users" comment I meant it isn't West Coast users on HN at this time of day. It's mostly European users before transitioning to East Coast users It's an international forum, and depending on the time of day, HN's tone changes significantly
- Tainnor 2y agoI agree that the tone shifts depending on the user base, but your comment appears to imply that there are more fringe takes when European users are online. I don't think that's the case and I also wouldn't know why Europeans are somehow more fringe (we do tend to have different cultural expectations, but "climate change denialism" is, I think, not one of them).
- alephnerd 2y agoI didn't mean that Europeans make more fringe takes. I think the rate is consistent with American users. IMO, the difference is there is less usage during peak EMEA hours, which makes fringe takes more prominent and visible, but by the time West Coast is using HN, that is peak overlap time for all users of HN globally.
- Tainnor 2y agook fair enough, thanks for explaining.