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I do not know anything about the US law, but I know phones. A decent locked phone is not unlockable without your cooperation (no matter the FUD). Your cooperat

I do not know anything about the US law, but I know phones. A decent locked phone is not unlockable without your cooperation (no matter the FUD). Your cooperation may mean forcing your fingers or face to unlock. A switched off phone with a decent PIN cannot be unlocked without said PIN. So it is always better yo switch it off before losing control over it.

ranger_danger 2y ago
Define decent: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/14344-cellebrite-premium-july-2024-documentation https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/14344-cellebrite-premium-ju...
- BrandoElFollito 2y ago
  I see that Cellebite (the essence of parasite company BTW) does not work for Samsung S11 and beyond (so 2019 and later). I have a Samsung S22+ which has a few years.
  - ranger_danger 2y ago
    This seems to imply that basically all Samsung devices are supported: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24833831-cellebrite-android-document-april-2024 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24833831-cellebrite-... The first Trump shooter had a Samsung device and Cellebrite was able to gain access to it in 40 minutes. There's also GreyKey, Azimuth and other companies that have similar software that work with other device models.
    - BrandoElFollito 2y ago
      It all depends on the state the phone was in when the shooter was killed. I had a look at the Cellebrite documentation at https://cellebrite.com/fr/services-avances/ https://cellebrite.com/fr/services-avances/ - this in French and the interesting part for Samsung reads Extraction complète du système de fichiers Android (Samsung Galaxy S10, Note 10 et toutes les Séries A (2019) (Full Android File System Extraction (Samsung Galaxy S10, Note 10 and all A Series (2019)) Such software relies on vulnerabilities that are fixed once they are found, and therefore they offer bounties of ~1M€ for a RCE without user interaction instead of going to the vendor (who will offer, best case, 10x less)

ranger_danger 2y ago

Define decent: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/14344-cellebrite-premium-july-2024-documentation https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/14344-cellebrite-premium-ju...

BrandoElFollito 2y ago
I see that Cellebite (the essence of parasite company BTW) does not work for Samsung S11 and beyond (so 2019 and later). I have a Samsung S22+ which has a few years.
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  This seems to imply that basically all Samsung devices are supported: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24833831-cellebrite-android-document-april-2024 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24833831-cellebrite-... The first Trump shooter had a Samsung device and Cellebrite was able to gain access to it in 40 minutes. There's also GreyKey, Azimuth and other companies that have similar software that work with other device models.
  - BrandoElFollito 2y ago
    It all depends on the state the phone was in when the shooter was killed. I had a look at the Cellebrite documentation at https://cellebrite.com/fr/services-avances/ https://cellebrite.com/fr/services-avances/ - this in French and the interesting part for Samsung reads Extraction complète du système de fichiers Android (Samsung Galaxy S10, Note 10 et toutes les Séries A (2019) (Full Android File System Extraction (Samsung Galaxy S10, Note 10 and all A Series (2019)) Such software relies on vulnerabilities that are fixed once they are found, and therefore they offer bounties of ~1M€ for a RCE without user interaction instead of going to the vendor (who will offer, best case, 10x less)