That's still user-focused. I actively avoid debian as a development distro because things are so out of date and so customised. Arch is a much nicer development

That's still user-focused. I actively avoid debian as a development distro because things are so out of date and so customised. Arch is a much nicer development experience because they for the most part just take the up-to-date upstream projects and build them without fiddling with a bunch of stuff. (OTOH, if I'm standing up a box to run critical network services, debian is strongly preferable)