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Why would I use this over PlugShare?

by negative_zero 2y ago

krzyk 2y ago
Or instead of OSM.
- marklit 2y ago
  OSM doesn't have the same metadata as this project.
teractiveodular 2y ago
Because Plugshare is closed source, locked down and a bizarre cesspool of uncurated garbage with zealously curated but misleading or straight up wrong information. For example, in Australia, the largest supercharger networks are Tesla and Evie. For reasons I won't even pretend to understand, Plugshare refuses to allow either name in their labels, so if a town has both, they're called "Town (1)" and "Town (2)" at random. Not only does this make searching a pain, but people just select whichever pin happens to be on top and then submit their charging reports for the wrong charger. Gar! Typical example: "Oliver's Gundagai (1)" https://www.plugshare.com/location/205861 https://www.plugshare.com/location/205861 (Chargefox) "Oliver's Gundagai (2)" https://www.plugshare.com/location/76887 https://www.plugshare.com/location/76887 (Tesla)
- promoterr 2y ago
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- bojan 2y ago
  Weird, this problem doesn't exist in Europe. I found Plugshare to be more reliable and informative than ABRP, especially in the areas where charger stations aren't that common.
mft_ 2y ago
IME, Plugshare is of variable value. Good in Germany; terrible in Mallorca, for example.
- promoterr 2y ago
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jwr 2y ago
PlugShare doesn't list all stations, for one.
- martini333 2y ago
  Neither does this; obviously.
- kccqzy 2y ago
  And it's easy to add a new station to PlugShare. I've done that before.
oezi 2y ago
Why would I use PlugShare over other apps on which I can also charge?
JaggedJax 2y ago
Being truly open is a huge plus for OCM. Checking a few locations in both I found that PlugShare had locations properly listed as under maintenance while OCM listed them as open, so at least near me the Plugshare data seems more accurate. I also really appreciate the images and comments people have posted in Plugshare to help find out of the way stations or stations that might not be reliable. If OSM took off it would get there, but none of the stations I checked had any comments or images. I'm not a big fan of the OCM station formatting. There's a bunch of useless information above the fold and a bunch of useful information below the fold. OCM doesn't appear to have any pricing information while PlugShare at least tells me if the station has a charge and if the parking itself has a charge. I hope that open services like this can get station data from more direct sources for more accurate information, but the data isn't quite there yet for me to want to use it when I'm actively looking for a station.
_ea1k 2y ago
Plugshare is owned by evgo. It'd be nice to have a fully independent entity owning the data and sharing it freely.
tas50 2y ago
This was my immediate question. Looking at this data in my city it reports a bunch of chargers that are either 100% gone or have been broken for a year. PlugShare reports those all correctly. I'd have a pretty bad time trying to charge around here (metro population of 2.5 million) if I relied on this dataset.
luuurker 2y ago
In London (UK), OCM seems to have more chargers and more accurate data than PlugShare. Zap Map is probably the best option though, but even them are missing some slow chargers.

Why would I use this over PlugShare?

krzyk 2y ago

Or instead of OSM.

marklit 2y ago
OSM doesn't have the same metadata as this project.

teractiveodular 2y ago

Because Plugshare is closed source, locked down and a bizarre cesspool of uncurated garbage with zealously curated but misleading or straight up wrong information. For example, in Australia, the largest supercharger networks are Tesla and Evie. For reasons I won't even pretend to understand, Plugshare refuses to allow either name in their labels, so if a town has both, they're called "Town (1)" and "Town (2)" at random. Not only does this make searching a pain, but people just select whichever pin happens to be on top and then submit their charging reports for the wrong charger. Gar! Typical example: "Oliver's Gundagai (1)" https://www.plugshare.com/location/205861 https://www.plugshare.com/location/205861 (Chargefox) "Oliver's Gundagai (2)" https://www.plugshare.com/location/76887 https://www.plugshare.com/location/76887 (Tesla)

promoterr 2y ago
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bojan 2y ago
Weird, this problem doesn't exist in Europe. I found Plugshare to be more reliable and informative than ABRP, especially in the areas where charger stations aren't that common.

mft_ 2y ago

IME, Plugshare is of variable value. Good in Germany; terrible in Mallorca, for example.

promoterr 2y ago
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jwr 2y ago

PlugShare doesn't list all stations, for one.

martini333 2y ago
Neither does this; obviously.
kccqzy 2y ago
And it's easy to add a new station to PlugShare. I've done that before.

oezi 2y ago

Why would I use PlugShare over other apps on which I can also charge?

JaggedJax 2y ago

Being truly open is a huge plus for OCM. Checking a few locations in both I found that PlugShare had locations properly listed as under maintenance while OCM listed them as open, so at least near me the Plugshare data seems more accurate. I also really appreciate the images and comments people have posted in Plugshare to help find out of the way stations or stations that might not be reliable. If OSM took off it would get there, but none of the stations I checked had any comments or images. I'm not a big fan of the OCM station formatting. There's a bunch of useless information above the fold and a bunch of useful information below the fold. OCM doesn't appear to have any pricing information while PlugShare at least tells me if the station has a charge and if the parking itself has a charge. I hope that open services like this can get station data from more direct sources for more accurate information, but the data isn't quite there yet for me to want to use it when I'm actively looking for a station.

_ea1k 2y ago

Plugshare is owned by evgo. It'd be nice to have a fully independent entity owning the data and sharing it freely.

tas50 2y ago

This was my immediate question. Looking at this data in my city it reports a bunch of chargers that are either 100% gone or have been broken for a year. PlugShare reports those all correctly. I'd have a pretty bad time trying to charge around here (metro population of 2.5 million) if I relied on this dataset.

luuurker 2y ago

In London (UK), OCM seems to have more chargers and more accurate data than PlugShare. Zap Map is probably the best option though, but even them are missing some slow chargers.