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> I find it harder to use than just typing to it Systems like this have existed since the 90s e.g. Dragon albeit far more rudimentary. And the issues are exac

> I find it harder to use than just typing to it Systems like this have existed since the 90s e.g. Dragon albeit far more rudimentary. And the issues are exactly the same: (a) discoverability, (b) efficiency and (c) recoverability. It is so much easier to have a screen with fixed options that you interact with, can easily see your journey and can go back for any mistakes. Versus with our voice which is the clunkiest, slowest and least precise input method we have.

infecto 2y ago
Voice is the future for certain interfaces. Its only clunky, slow and not precise because of the systems the voice is interacting with.
zurfer 2y ago
I understand how (a) discoverability and (c) recoverability are a problem, but what do you mean with (b) efficiency? Most people talk faster than they can type.
- threeseed 2y ago
  But that assumes that the speech recognition is perfect. Which at least for those of us speaking non-US English is never the case. And you have only to ring your bank and try and transfer money between accounts with it reading out every account number and asking for confirmation every step of the way. Versus a few clicks with a mouse to see that for almost all operational tasks voice is cumbersome and inefficient.
  - danielbln 2y ago
    Whisper is incredibly robust, with a vast amount of language. I use it in German as well as English and it's incredibly reliable. Modern, transformer based ASR is a different ballgame.
    - threeseed 2y ago
      It needs to be perfect. Every single time. Because voice interfaces don't have the equivalent of a delete key or allowing the user to quickly select a different option.
    - soco 2y ago
      Time for the mandatory mention of the Scottish voice recognition elevator sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNuFcIRlwdc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNuFcIRlwdc
- Karunamon 2y ago
  That assumes perfect accuracy. If a command is misheard then you probably need to correct whatever is now in the wrong state, and then definitely reissue the original command. If its text input then you have to do some select/correct dance. Both of these things take a lot of time.
elif 2y ago
That's merely because our conversational capability has become diminished. I can't keep a conversation going with AI as easily as a person because of my poor skills, no fault of the AI. I will improve over time, and there is no reason I won't be able to become as natural as jean luc Picard telling his starship what to do.
noahjk 2y ago
> Versus with our voice which is the clunkiest, slowest and least precise input method we have. Some related issues I have: - my thoughts always seem to be jumbled when talking to AI - I rush to talk quickly because any pause seems to trigger a response - I worry words or DSL I use won’t be interpreted properly This all leads to a pretty poor voice experience for me, and I usually forget half of what I want to talk about.

infecto 2y ago

Voice is the future for certain interfaces. Its only clunky, slow and not precise because of the systems the voice is interacting with.

zurfer 2y ago

I understand how (a) discoverability and (c) recoverability are a problem, but what do you mean with (b) efficiency? Most people talk faster than they can type.

threeseed 2y ago
But that assumes that the speech recognition is perfect. Which at least for those of us speaking non-US English is never the case. And you have only to ring your bank and try and transfer money between accounts with it reading out every account number and asking for confirmation every step of the way. Versus a few clicks with a mouse to see that for almost all operational tasks voice is cumbersome and inefficient.
- danielbln 2y ago
  Whisper is incredibly robust, with a vast amount of language. I use it in German as well as English and it's incredibly reliable. Modern, transformer based ASR is a different ballgame.
  - threeseed 2y ago
    It needs to be perfect. Every single time. Because voice interfaces don't have the equivalent of a delete key or allowing the user to quickly select a different option.
  - soco 2y ago
    Time for the mandatory mention of the Scottish voice recognition elevator sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNuFcIRlwdc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNuFcIRlwdc
Karunamon 2y ago
That assumes perfect accuracy. If a command is misheard then you probably need to correct whatever is now in the wrong state, and then definitely reissue the original command. If its text input then you have to do some select/correct dance. Both of these things take a lot of time.

elif 2y ago

That's merely because our conversational capability has become diminished. I can't keep a conversation going with AI as easily as a person because of my poor skills, no fault of the AI. I will improve over time, and there is no reason I won't be able to become as natural as jean luc Picard telling his starship what to do.

noahjk 2y ago

> Versus with our voice which is the clunkiest, slowest and least precise input method we have. Some related issues I have: - my thoughts always seem to be jumbled when talking to AI - I rush to talk quickly because any pause seems to trigger a response - I worry words or DSL I use won’t be interpreted properly This all leads to a pretty poor voice experience for me, and I usually forget half of what I want to talk about.