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It's definitely legal issues, probably the same reason Apple is not rolling some of the new features like Apple Intelligence in iOS 18 to EU. [0] https://www.m

by M4v3R 2y ago

It's definitely legal issues, probably the same reason Apple is not rolling some of the new features like Apple Intelligence in iOS 18 to EU. [0] https://www.macworld.com/article/2374452/apple-intelligence-iphone-mirroring-ios-18-eu-users.html https://www.macworld.com/article/2374452/apple-intelligence-...

jacooper 2y ago
I don't believe this, gpt4o and chatgpt is already available in the EU. Adding advanced voice mode doesn't change anything.
- mewpmewp2 2y ago
  The main thing compared to the old voice mode is that your speech instead of being fed to a speech to text model is now fed to the LLM directly. I'm not sure if that would be enough to trigger a need for external review though. If they were using your voice recording for training purposes, then of course absolutely. Which then for a good reason. Or it could also be about the way the voice recording is transported or where it's stored, for how long it's stored etc. Because speech to text could be achieved even offline and not in cloud and be there for shorter period of time. You can delete the recording and just use the text. If the voice recording is tokenized in an ongoing conversation then it would be stored indefinitely.
  - lxgr 2y ago
    In the end, you can put whatever you want to external review, and similarly to how nobody gets fired for hiring a big consulting firm, nobody gets fired for flagging something for legal review...
- walthamstow 2y ago
  It doesn't have to change anything. OpenAI are doing it for political reasons
- pelorat 2y ago
  This voice mode can understand emotions, something the AI act regulates as "very risky"
nindalf 2y ago
> Apple Intelligence was only ever going to support American English this year anyway, with other languages coming in 2025 and beyond. That would somewhat limit its effectiveness in the EU to begin with ... Their AI product wasn't ready for other languages, not even British English where the DMA definitely doesn't apply. A person would have to be very naive to believe Apple directly here. They just want to generate bad press for the DMA.
- layer8 2y ago
  Apple will be rolling out AI in Switzerland but not in the EU, despite shared sets of languages.
  - lxgr 2y ago
    We don't know that yet. My suspicion is that Apple is stomping its foot as loudly as possible about the evil European Commission while getting language/localization support in order. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they suddenly and miraculously discovered a way to somehow still be compliant in the last minute and launch the feature as planned to not endanger their sales.

by M4v3R 2y ago

jacooper 2y ago

I don't believe this, gpt4o and chatgpt is already available in the EU. Adding advanced voice mode doesn't change anything.

mewpmewp2 2y ago
The main thing compared to the old voice mode is that your speech instead of being fed to a speech to text model is now fed to the LLM directly. I'm not sure if that would be enough to trigger a need for external review though. If they were using your voice recording for training purposes, then of course absolutely. Which then for a good reason. Or it could also be about the way the voice recording is transported or where it's stored, for how long it's stored etc. Because speech to text could be achieved even offline and not in cloud and be there for shorter period of time. You can delete the recording and just use the text. If the voice recording is tokenized in an ongoing conversation then it would be stored indefinitely.
- lxgr 2y ago
  In the end, you can put whatever you want to external review, and similarly to how nobody gets fired for hiring a big consulting firm, nobody gets fired for flagging something for legal review...
walthamstow 2y ago
It doesn't have to change anything. OpenAI are doing it for political reasons
pelorat 2y ago
This voice mode can understand emotions, something the AI act regulates as "very risky"

nindalf 2y ago

> Apple Intelligence was only ever going to support American English this year anyway, with other languages coming in 2025 and beyond. That would somewhat limit its effectiveness in the EU to begin with ... Their AI product wasn't ready for other languages, not even British English where the DMA definitely doesn't apply. A person would have to be very naive to believe Apple directly here. They just want to generate bad press for the DMA.

layer8 2y ago
Apple will be rolling out AI in Switzerland but not in the EU, despite shared sets of languages.
- lxgr 2y ago
  We don't know that yet. My suspicion is that Apple is stomping its foot as loudly as possible about the evil European Commission while getting language/localization support in order. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they suddenly and miraculously discovered a way to somehow still be compliant in the last minute and launch the feature as planned to not endanger their sales.