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I go to DCI shows because I prefer horns to strings. A skilled horn line at max volume will change your life. That said, I’ve been going less because the compo

I go to DCI shows because I prefer horns to strings. A skilled horn line at max volume will change your life. That said, I’ve been going less because the compositions have gotten way too “artsy.” Let’s play a bunch of discordant chords and unresolved runs, because we’re artists, not entertainers. In fact, we would prefer if most people didn’t like it!

b112 2y ago
This immediately made me think of outrage clickbait. So much stuff is wrapped in the veil of shock/outrafe now, that maybe people even think it creative? When I look youtube, even quality videos about "how to dig a trench for a sump pump" often have a preview showing some horrible thing happening, or the guy with an anguished look on his face, and a title of "don't let this happen to you!" What if the height of creativity is now "we shocked/annoyed you".
nosianu 2y ago
I'm reminded of Stravinski's Rite of Spring, the first performance. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rite_of_Spring#First_performance https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rite_of_Spring#First_p... > The complicated music and violent dance steps caused some to boo. They started to shout and whistle. They argued, and other people who liked it argued back. Then some people started to fight. In the end the police were called. Stravinksy was very upset and ran out of the theatre. The performance was a scandal, but this actually made people curious and soon the ballet became very famous. It was performed six times that season, and there were no more interruptions during the other performances. I had a similarly negative reaction when I listened to it for the first time, but over time it turned into the opposite, it's addictive and I have to go back and listen to at least parts of it once in a while. Still, just because this performance caused some violent negative reactions does not mean anything that is at first rejected is good. If it still sounds unappealing the second and third time, it's probably not for you unless your taste changes a lot. Recommendation (a truly excellent free course for the interested non-music-professional "HarvardX: First Nights - Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring: Modernism, Ballet, and Riots"): https://www.edx.org/learn/music-arts/harvard-university-first-nights-stravinskys-rite-of-spring-modernism-ballet-and-riots https://www.edx.org/learn/music-arts/harvard-university-firs...
cebu_blue 2y ago
You have to listen to the notes they're not playing.
relaxing 2y ago
Proper compositions use the perfect 5th as the soul source of harmony, as in 10th century Gregorian chant and liturgical music (the peak of human creativity, put to its proper purpose.) Any other dissonant intervals (major 3rds, etc.) are the work of the devil. 1950s era DCI, JP Sousa, brass band works by Elgar and Vaughn Williams, it’s all a discordant mess, created to titillate an unruly (and ungodly) audience.

b112 2y ago

This immediately made me think of outrage clickbait. So much stuff is wrapped in the veil of shock/outrafe now, that maybe people even think it creative? When I look youtube, even quality videos about "how to dig a trench for a sump pump" often have a preview showing some horrible thing happening, or the guy with an anguished look on his face, and a title of "don't let this happen to you!" What if the height of creativity is now "we shocked/annoyed you".

nosianu 2y ago

I'm reminded of Stravinski's Rite of Spring, the first performance. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rite_of_Spring#First_performance https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rite_of_Spring#First_p... > The complicated music and violent dance steps caused some to boo. They started to shout and whistle. They argued, and other people who liked it argued back. Then some people started to fight. In the end the police were called. Stravinksy was very upset and ran out of the theatre. The performance was a scandal, but this actually made people curious and soon the ballet became very famous. It was performed six times that season, and there were no more interruptions during the other performances. I had a similarly negative reaction when I listened to it for the first time, but over time it turned into the opposite, it's addictive and I have to go back and listen to at least parts of it once in a while. Still, just because this performance caused some violent negative reactions does not mean anything that is at first rejected is good. If it still sounds unappealing the second and third time, it's probably not for you unless your taste changes a lot. Recommendation (a truly excellent free course for the interested non-music-professional "HarvardX: First Nights - Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring: Modernism, Ballet, and Riots"): https://www.edx.org/learn/music-arts/harvard-university-first-nights-stravinskys-rite-of-spring-modernism-ballet-and-riots https://www.edx.org/learn/music-arts/harvard-university-firs...

cebu_blue 2y ago

You have to listen to the notes they're not playing.

relaxing 2y ago

Proper compositions use the perfect 5th as the soul source of harmony, as in 10th century Gregorian chant and liturgical music (the peak of human creativity, put to its proper purpose.) Any other dissonant intervals (major 3rds, etc.) are the work of the devil. 1950s era DCI, JP Sousa, brass band works by Elgar and Vaughn Williams, it’s all a discordant mess, created to titillate an unruly (and ungodly) audience.