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A cool feature for sure, but, kind of ruins the whole concept of that a chiptune is. For me its about the limitation of the system. If that is not one of the co

A cool feature for sure, but, kind of ruins the whole concept of that a chiptune is. For me its about the limitation of the system. If that is not one of the core reasons you are into chiptunes you might as well use whatever you like to make music that go plipediblop. (edit): Then again, i have always considered mod and xms that use samples and sound like chiptunes to also be chiptunes even though they fall outside of the true definition.

in_a_hole 2y ago
It's nice to have all the limitations in one box, maximal minimalism.
mdp2021 2y ago
You are confusing two dimensions: being masterful and cunning in the use of an instrument, and fully expressing creativity. The first thrives on limitations, for the second limitations are unwanted. You can create a masterpiece with a stick and a pebble - but not all masterpieces.
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- Terr_ 2y ago
  > a masterpiece with a stick and a pebble "Baroque Pickaxe Handel and Rock (A Miner)"
Netcob 2y ago
I sometimes feel that way about pixel art in modern games, but maybe that's a bit like getting angry at people playing checkers for using a chessboard wrong. For some people it's about being creative within the very narrow bounds of a specific system, for others it's about using a very specific style that originated within those bounds. In order to use that style you still need a good way to simulate thouse systems.
- mdp2021 2y ago
  For others (for those who brought us the best), it is continuing a path which continuously overcomes itself (so, the style is just a side effect of the medium). Apex of Punk music was The Strangler's Golden Brown.
NobodyNada 2y ago
There's a lot of artists who write music that's inspired by chiptune or has chiptune instruments but is not pure chiptune -- they use modern production techniques, don't limit themselves to specific hardware, and often combine chiptune elements with modern instruments. I agree that there's something special about music composed with the limitations of a platform in mind, but there's also something special about music that's not constrained by these limitations and just uses chiptune hardware as an audio production tool. They both have their place, some people will prefer one or the other, and that's fine. Making a tracker configurable like this makes it useful for both times of music. Some examples of "unconstrained" chiptune-style artists: Anamanaguchi: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cppRxHfmY403D https://youtube.com/watch?v=cppRxHfmY403D https://youtube.com/watch?v=gpzAaJ1ikZ0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=gpzAaJ1ikZ0 Lindsay Lowend: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EZjt9Jl3GGA https://youtube.com/watch?v=EZjt9Jl3GGA Fearofdark: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R4N_YrnUTC4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=R4N_YrnUTC4
- mdp2021 2y ago
  > The Elektron SidStation is a synthesizer and sampler designed by Elektron in 2001. It is based on the classic Commodore 64 SID chip, which was used in the Commodore 64 home computer. It has been used by a variety of artists, including Aphex Twin, Daft Punk, and The Prodigy https://synthpedia.net/elektron/sidstation/ https://synthpedia.net/elektron/sidstation/ # Aphex Twin - Vordhosbn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYrQC-jWMFM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYrQC-jWMFM
rollcat 2y ago
> A cool feature for sure, but, kind of ruins the whole concept of that a chiptune is. It's called a band, or an orchestra. Or a guitar effect. Or using a brush instead of a stick to play the drums. Or defretting a guitar. Or a happy accident during recording that produces a unique tone. An instrument has a limitation. Artist can work with, or around the limitation. It may no longer be "chiptune as you know it", but that's essentially how new genres are born - you can't discriminate creativity.

in_a_hole 2y ago

It's nice to have all the limitations in one box, maximal minimalism.

mdp2021 2y ago

You are confusing two dimensions: being masterful and cunning in the use of an instrument, and fully expressing creativity. The first thrives on limitations, for the second limitations are unwanted. You can create a masterpiece with a stick and a pebble - but not all masterpieces.

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Terr_ 2y ago
> a masterpiece with a stick and a pebble "Baroque Pickaxe Handel and Rock (A Miner)"

Netcob 2y ago

I sometimes feel that way about pixel art in modern games, but maybe that's a bit like getting angry at people playing checkers for using a chessboard wrong. For some people it's about being creative within the very narrow bounds of a specific system, for others it's about using a very specific style that originated within those bounds. In order to use that style you still need a good way to simulate thouse systems.

mdp2021 2y ago
For others (for those who brought us the best), it is continuing a path which continuously overcomes itself (so, the style is just a side effect of the medium). Apex of Punk music was The Strangler's Golden Brown.

NobodyNada 2y ago

There's a lot of artists who write music that's inspired by chiptune or has chiptune instruments but is not pure chiptune -- they use modern production techniques, don't limit themselves to specific hardware, and often combine chiptune elements with modern instruments. I agree that there's something special about music composed with the limitations of a platform in mind, but there's also something special about music that's not constrained by these limitations and just uses chiptune hardware as an audio production tool. They both have their place, some people will prefer one or the other, and that's fine. Making a tracker configurable like this makes it useful for both times of music. Some examples of "unconstrained" chiptune-style artists: Anamanaguchi: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cppRxHfmY403D https://youtube.com/watch?v=cppRxHfmY403D https://youtube.com/watch?v=gpzAaJ1ikZ0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=gpzAaJ1ikZ0 Lindsay Lowend: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EZjt9Jl3GGA https://youtube.com/watch?v=EZjt9Jl3GGA Fearofdark: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R4N_YrnUTC4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=R4N_YrnUTC4

mdp2021 2y ago
> The Elektron SidStation is a synthesizer and sampler designed by Elektron in 2001. It is based on the classic Commodore 64 SID chip, which was used in the Commodore 64 home computer. It has been used by a variety of artists, including Aphex Twin, Daft Punk, and The Prodigy https://synthpedia.net/elektron/sidstation/ https://synthpedia.net/elektron/sidstation/ # Aphex Twin - Vordhosbn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYrQC-jWMFM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYrQC-jWMFM

rollcat 2y ago

> A cool feature for sure, but, kind of ruins the whole concept of that a chiptune is. It's called a band, or an orchestra. Or a guitar effect. Or using a brush instead of a stick to play the drums. Or defretting a guitar. Or a happy accident during recording that produces a unique tone. An instrument has a limitation. Artist can work with, or around the limitation. It may no longer be "chiptune as you know it", but that's essentially how new genres are born - you can't discriminate creativity.