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Usenet was federated. And it is old... Then there is https://irc-galleria.net https://irc-galleria.net which to me is clearly social media started in 2000... A

by Ekaros 2y ago

Usenet was federated. And it is old... Then there is https://irc-galleria.net https://irc-galleria.net which to me is clearly social media started in 2000... And I think there might be some older sites.

westurner 2y ago
BBS Bulletin Board System > History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system GNU/talk is a text chat system for users all on the same multiuser nix system. But it doesn't separate code and data; because of terminal control characters: Talk (software) > History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_(software) Finger (protocol) was named finger. To update your finger "status message" you edit that file in your homedir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_(protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_(protocol) Finger was written in C and had overflow vulnerabilities, and I don't know whether it ever scaled beyond one multiuser system? NNTP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_News_Transfer_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_News_Transfer_Protocol "Social Media" is distinct from "Media" in being a two-way* dialogue. Like only some newspaper sites, Social Media has comments (and UCC User Contributed Content). If a newspaper site hosts comments on each article, will it need to be labeled as a potentially harmful social media outlet per proposed US media regulations? Does that make it social media? User Contributed Content is seemingly inexpensive, but is it high-liability? Section 230 makes it possible to moderate without assuming liability for how people use the service to maim, defame, and harass others. Neither are arms dealers liable for crimes committed using the products that they sell. Media and Social Media operate without catastrophic liability for holding the mirror and abusive user-contributed content; instead of corporate doublespeak selling us into counterproductive wars that benefit only special interests (without a comment section) in a 24 hour news ticker that nobody checks. But corporate content has displaced grassroots media by real people in so many of the now traditional social media outlets, and now everyone has to go to a different bar. People grassroots campaigning for peace and equal rights; now replaced by the same old fear, greed, war, pestilence, and violence that TV and radio ad planners and newspaper editors use to sell ads. Where "mass media" was an opiate for the masses, social media is a panacea for vanity and dysfunction. Where "War of the Worlds" on the radio might've caused pandemonium back then, today people would likely debunk such claims of alien invasion via online trusted media outlets and bs rags. FOAF: Friend of a Friend and/or schema.org/Person records describe a social graph of persons with attributes and CreativeWorks, but open record schema don't solve for the costs of indexing, search, video hosting, or federated moderation signals.
waihtis 2y ago
IG (Irc-Galleria, not Instagram) was huge in Finland for my age group (late 80s-early 90s) - definitely was an early showcase of just how powerful social media could be. I wonder if theres a similar local phenomenom going on somewhere right now which will become a global megatrend.

by Ekaros 2y ago

westurner 2y ago

BBS Bulletin Board System > History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system GNU/talk is a text chat system for users all on the same multiuser nix system. But it doesn't separate code and data; because of terminal control characters: Talk (software) > History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_(software) Finger (protocol) was named finger. To update your finger "status message" you edit that file in your homedir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_(protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_(protocol) Finger was written in C and had overflow vulnerabilities, and I don't know whether it ever scaled beyond one multiuser system? NNTP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_News_Transfer_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_News_Transfer_Protocol "Social Media" is distinct from "Media" in being a two-way* dialogue. Like only some newspaper sites, Social Media has comments (and UCC User Contributed Content). If a newspaper site hosts comments on each article, will it need to be labeled as a potentially harmful social media outlet per proposed US media regulations? Does that make it social media? User Contributed Content is seemingly inexpensive, but is it high-liability? Section 230 makes it possible to moderate without assuming liability for how people use the service to maim, defame, and harass others. Neither are arms dealers liable for crimes committed using the products that they sell. Media and Social Media operate without catastrophic liability for holding the mirror and abusive user-contributed content; instead of corporate doublespeak selling us into counterproductive wars that benefit only special interests (without a comment section) in a 24 hour news ticker that nobody checks. But corporate content has displaced grassroots media by real people in so many of the now traditional social media outlets, and now everyone has to go to a different bar. People grassroots campaigning for peace and equal rights; now replaced by the same old fear, greed, war, pestilence, and violence that TV and radio ad planners and newspaper editors use to sell ads. Where "mass media" was an opiate for the masses, social media is a panacea for vanity and dysfunction. Where "War of the Worlds" on the radio might've caused pandemonium back then, today people would likely debunk such claims of alien invasion via online trusted media outlets and bs rags. FOAF: Friend of a Friend and/or schema.org/Person records describe a social graph of persons with attributes and CreativeWorks, but open record schema don't solve for the costs of indexing, search, video hosting, or federated moderation signals.

waihtis 2y ago

IG (Irc-Galleria, not Instagram) was huge in Finland for my age group (late 80s-early 90s) - definitely was an early showcase of just how powerful social media could be. I wonder if theres a similar local phenomenom going on somewhere right now which will become a global megatrend.