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But the arena for that fight is legislation. Weed didn't become legal through lawsuits, it became legal because laws were repealed. I hope IA prevails but it's

But the arena for that fight is legislation. Weed didn't become legal through lawsuits, it became legal because laws were repealed. I hope IA prevails but it's long shot, even more with the Heritage infestation of the courts.

Gud 2y ago
Again, disagree. The copyright trolls need to be fought in the courts as well. Obviously the law needs to be changed.
- vineyardmike 2y ago
  The “problem” is that society doesn’t see Nintendo/Disney/et al as copyright trolls - instead they’re successful businesses who made content and profit. Connecting those dots to archival work and historic preservation is a long slow process and won’t be successful in courts without legal changes.
  - throwaway14356 2y ago
    We have to stop prioritizing it over everything else. You can't compete in the global playground if you have impossible to implement entitlement programs. Priority has to be new work not existing work and definitely not the work of dead people. We have countless similar schemes were people are to be rewarded for things done long ago. One can't pretend it isn't slowing everything down.
    - account42 2y ago
      I wonder if reframing it as getting rid of hereditary wealth would make more people open to copyright reform.
raxxorraxor 2y ago
Everyone just ignoring bad laws and contradicting them can remove laws too. But of course this is a niche topic that would never get such broad support. A lot of people smoking weed is certainly a component for the prohibition to fail at some point. Writing mails to legislative members isn't enough if you don't have any form of leverage.
- autoexec 2y ago
  Jury nullification is the real mechanism for We The People when we don't consent to be held to laws passed by They The Wealthy/Bribed Lawmakers It requires that people refuse plea deals and demand jury trials, and that the jury is educated on what jury nullification is but when prosecutors can't get a conviction regardless of much evidence they have of guilt the laws will get changed or at least they stop being enforced.
  - account42 2y ago
    AFAIU the jury doesn't have final say in civil trials so this would only work partially (copyright infringement can be both a civil dispute as well as a criminal matter).

Gud 2y ago

Again, disagree. The copyright trolls need to be fought in the courts as well. Obviously the law needs to be changed.

vineyardmike 2y ago
The “problem” is that society doesn’t see Nintendo/Disney/et al as copyright trolls - instead they’re successful businesses who made content and profit. Connecting those dots to archival work and historic preservation is a long slow process and won’t be successful in courts without legal changes.
- throwaway14356 2y ago
  We have to stop prioritizing it over everything else. You can't compete in the global playground if you have impossible to implement entitlement programs. Priority has to be new work not existing work and definitely not the work of dead people. We have countless similar schemes were people are to be rewarded for things done long ago. One can't pretend it isn't slowing everything down.
  - account42 2y ago
    I wonder if reframing it as getting rid of hereditary wealth would make more people open to copyright reform.

raxxorraxor 2y ago

Everyone just ignoring bad laws and contradicting them can remove laws too. But of course this is a niche topic that would never get such broad support. A lot of people smoking weed is certainly a component for the prohibition to fail at some point. Writing mails to legislative members isn't enough if you don't have any form of leverage.

autoexec 2y ago
Jury nullification is the real mechanism for We The People when we don't consent to be held to laws passed by They The Wealthy/Bribed Lawmakers It requires that people refuse plea deals and demand jury trials, and that the jury is educated on what jury nullification is but when prosecutors can't get a conviction regardless of much evidence they have of guilt the laws will get changed or at least they stop being enforced.
- account42 2y ago
  AFAIU the jury doesn't have final say in civil trials so this would only work partially (copyright infringement can be both a civil dispute as well as a criminal matter).