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Economic transactions only happen if there is a mutual benefit. Typically one side of the transaction has more market power than the other and captures more of

Economic transactions only happen if there is a mutual benefit. Typically one side of the transaction has more market power than the other and captures more of the surplus but the transaction doesn't happen if one side is worse off from it. The entire idea of economic transactions being exploitative is literal Marxist propaganda. If you read the word "exploit" in some news article and it's referring to economic transactions, you are reading propaganda.

pdntspa 2y ago
I don't usually ask for citations on comment threads, but assserting that 'exploitation' is Marxist propaganda is gonna need some citations for me to take even remotely seriously. Otherwise, talk about room temperature IQs... > Economic transactions only happen if there is a mutual benefit. There are all sorts of coercive circumstances that may appear mutually beneficial on a superficial level, but may actually not be the case, whether due to contract details, opportunity costs, strategic mistakes, or otherwise. Perhaps this is true given perfect information and execution, but the real world is much more messy. As an example, consider Spotify or Adobe's transition to a subscription model. There are a lot of people for whom those models are a very bad deal compared to what was.
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- brigadier132 2y ago
  It's a dog whistle. There are no studies on this, why would academia (which for the field that would study this is 100% composed of leftists) have a study on leftist dog whistles? Also, putting any value on "studies" when they almost universally fail to replicate outside of hard sciences is dumb.
  - pdntspa 2y ago
    Hillsdale College somehow sends me a circular several times a year full of right-wing neoconservative religious cocksucking. That right there immediately disproves your "100% composed of leftists" assertion. I'm sure the students and faculty at BYU or USD or any number of other religious academic institutions would agree.
    - brigadier132 2y ago
      For someone so in touch with what studies say you seem to have a very inaccurate view of the political leanings of academics https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYOm6ciXcAAZ0vl?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYOm6ciXcAAZ0vl?format=jpg&name=... You see, all the fake fields of studies are field with leftists. And sure, you might say democrats aren't leftists, which is what every dumbass marxist says.
- BestHackerOnHN 2y ago
  > I don't usually ask for citations on comment threads No - please do!!! It'll ensure we have robust discussions on this great site!
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- dang 2y ago
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Incipient 2y ago
"exploit" has two perfectly usable definitions in this context, essentially. One is negative, one is not. To employ to the greatest possible advantage. To make use of selfishly or unethically.
- brigadier132 2y ago
  Yes, they are always using the second definition.
  - BestHackerOnHN 2y ago
    Loving this classic HackerNews-type discussion!!!

pdntspa 2y ago

I don't usually ask for citations on comment threads, but assserting that 'exploitation' is Marxist propaganda is gonna need some citations for me to take even remotely seriously. Otherwise, talk about room temperature IQs... > Economic transactions only happen if there is a mutual benefit. There are all sorts of coercive circumstances that may appear mutually beneficial on a superficial level, but may actually not be the case, whether due to contract details, opportunity costs, strategic mistakes, or otherwise. Perhaps this is true given perfect information and execution, but the real world is much more messy. As an example, consider Spotify or Adobe's transition to a subscription model. There are a lot of people for whom those models are a very bad deal compared to what was.

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brigadier132 2y ago
It's a dog whistle. There are no studies on this, why would academia (which for the field that would study this is 100% composed of leftists) have a study on leftist dog whistles? Also, putting any value on "studies" when they almost universally fail to replicate outside of hard sciences is dumb.
- pdntspa 2y ago
  Hillsdale College somehow sends me a circular several times a year full of right-wing neoconservative religious cocksucking. That right there immediately disproves your "100% composed of leftists" assertion. I'm sure the students and faculty at BYU or USD or any number of other religious academic institutions would agree.
  - brigadier132 2y ago
    For someone so in touch with what studies say you seem to have a very inaccurate view of the political leanings of academics https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYOm6ciXcAAZ0vl?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYOm6ciXcAAZ0vl?format=jpg&name=... You see, all the fake fields of studies are field with leftists. And sure, you might say democrats aren't leftists, which is what every dumbass marxist says.
BestHackerOnHN 2y ago
> I don't usually ask for citations on comment threads No - please do!!! It'll ensure we have robust discussions on this great site!

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- dang 2y ago
  We've banned this account for breaking HN's guidelines. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. p.s. If you had only been doing it in this one thread, I'd have posted a warning instead of banning you immediately, but this is clearly a pattern and not cool: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41627310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41627310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41583798 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41583798 Also, we'd already warned you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36384393 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36384393.
dang 2y ago
You've broken the site guidelines badly in more than one place in this thread. Can you please not do that? Regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are, it destroys what HN is for, and we have to ban such accounts. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. p.s. I'm not banning your account immediately because I didn't see any other cases of this in your recent history. That's good. Please make sure it doesn't happen again.

Incipient 2y ago

"exploit" has two perfectly usable definitions in this context, essentially. One is negative, one is not. To employ to the greatest possible advantage. To make use of selfishly or unethically.

brigadier132 2y ago
Yes, they are always using the second definition.
- BestHackerOnHN 2y ago
  Loving this classic HackerNews-type discussion!!!