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Technically. What would be the point of said exception, though? If personal vehicle use is exchanged for taxis, you will still have more or less the same number

Technically. What would be the point of said exception, though? If personal vehicle use is exchanged for taxis, you will still have more or less the same number of cars on the road, doing nothing to solve the apparent problem. I mean, you could grant taxi use only under certain circumstances (e.g. medical need), but then the taxi isn't really an option for general use. And in that case, you could apply the same restrictions on personal vehicles, rendering the exception for taxis alone to be rather pointless (unless you are trying to subsidize your taxi operator friends, I suppose).

Turskarama 2y ago
Let's actually approach this from good faith, shall we? The point is to try to remove car travel as much as is possible, even if that isn't 100%. You can build a city where everything you need on a day to day basis is within walking or cycling distance, and nearly everything else can be got to easily with public transport. There will almost certainly be some edge cases though. Replacing everyones commute with walking or cycling or public transport gets rid of something like 50% of cars on the road. Doing the same with shopping trips is probably another 80% of what remains, so just doing that is already a significant improvement (numbers pulled out of my ass but they seem realistic). If you only need to use a car once a _month_ then suddenly the economy of owning one yourself becomes very questionable next to just getting a taxi on those rare occasions, or hiring one if you need to drive somewhere not so ideal. So there would still be cars on the road, but it would be very far from the same number of cars.
- randomdata 2y ago
  Sure, let us know when you are ready. None of this explains the car ban. Yeah, make cites more walkable. That's just logical. These wannabe rural areas we call cities today are hilariously nonsensical. But you don't need to ban cars to get there. And if we hypothetically assume for the sake of discussion that you do need to ban cars to get there, then exempting taxis won't help as people will simply replace their personal vehicle use with taxis, negating the hypothetical pressure to change. If someone wants to own a car for their once a month trip, who cares? It is not cars in a garage that is bothersome with respect to the topic at hand.

Turskarama 2y ago

Let's actually approach this from good faith, shall we? The point is to try to remove car travel as much as is possible, even if that isn't 100%. You can build a city where everything you need on a day to day basis is within walking or cycling distance, and nearly everything else can be got to easily with public transport. There will almost certainly be some edge cases though. Replacing everyones commute with walking or cycling or public transport gets rid of something like 50% of cars on the road. Doing the same with shopping trips is probably another 80% of what remains, so just doing that is already a significant improvement (numbers pulled out of my ass but they seem realistic). If you only need to use a car once a _month_ then suddenly the economy of owning one yourself becomes very questionable next to just getting a taxi on those rare occasions, or hiring one if you need to drive somewhere not so ideal. So there would still be cars on the road, but it would be very far from the same number of cars.

randomdata 2y ago
Sure, let us know when you are ready. None of this explains the car ban. Yeah, make cites more walkable. That's just logical. These wannabe rural areas we call cities today are hilariously nonsensical. But you don't need to ban cars to get there. And if we hypothetically assume for the sake of discussion that you do need to ban cars to get there, then exempting taxis won't help as people will simply replace their personal vehicle use with taxis, negating the hypothetical pressure to change. If someone wants to own a car for their once a month trip, who cares? It is not cars in a garage that is bothersome with respect to the topic at hand.