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Not sure why the downvoting. It’s a serious question. Who is ensuring that this project has a future and isn’t going to collapse tomorrow?

steveklabnik 2y ago
Asserting that a team is collapsing with no evidence will get downvotes. This work is funded by Google and I believe others. So that’s a positive signal towards maintainability. Regardless of a specific person being involved or not, Google has significant Rust components in Android and a vested interest in all this. But also on some level, it’s too early for these questions. Stuff is still an experiment. It could all get removed tomorrow. Once it’s closer to being permanent, then “how do we continue to maintain this” becomes a more important question.
- yazzku 2y ago
  Google funding is a positive signal? https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
  - steveklabnik 2y ago
    This link is about consumer products, not about technical projects. If you believe Android will be killed soon, sure. I do not.
    - yazzku 2y ago
      Android sits at the heart of their mass surveillance network. Rust experiments in the kernel? Seems like quite a stretch between the two to me. I'd find more comfort in the "others" that you mentioned, although I don't know who they are.
      - steveklabnik 2y ago
        Saying Android is bad is irrelevant. It’s an important project for Google. > Seems like quite a stretch It’s not a stretch, they’ve been talking publicly about their increased Rust usage in Android (among others) for years now. Here’s a 2023 post for example https://security.googleblog.com/2023/10/bare-metal-rust-in-android.html https://security.googleblog.com/2023/10/bare-metal-rust-in-a...
      - arp242 2y ago
        > I'd find more comfort in the "others" that you mentioned, although I don't know who they are. Go, for example, or gRPC, or tons of other stuff.
nixosbestos 2y ago
I rolled my eyes but then I realize you self-replied and actually laughed out loud. Maybe next time do a tiny bit of looking before asserting unsubstantiated statements and then doubling down calling your own unsubstantiated question "serious". Not a serious way to conduct discourse, just tossing that out there.
fragmede 2y ago
It's a loaded question, like "have your stopped beating your wife yet?"
timeon 2y ago
>> I just see drama. > It’s a serious question. Is it?

steveklabnik 2y ago

Asserting that a team is collapsing with no evidence will get downvotes. This work is funded by Google and I believe others. So that’s a positive signal towards maintainability. Regardless of a specific person being involved or not, Google has significant Rust components in Android and a vested interest in all this. But also on some level, it’s too early for these questions. Stuff is still an experiment. It could all get removed tomorrow. Once it’s closer to being permanent, then “how do we continue to maintain this” becomes a more important question.

yazzku 2y ago
Google funding is a positive signal? https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
- steveklabnik 2y ago
  This link is about consumer products, not about technical projects. If you believe Android will be killed soon, sure. I do not.
  - yazzku 2y ago
    Android sits at the heart of their mass surveillance network. Rust experiments in the kernel? Seems like quite a stretch between the two to me. I'd find more comfort in the "others" that you mentioned, although I don't know who they are.
    - steveklabnik 2y ago
      Saying Android is bad is irrelevant. It’s an important project for Google. > Seems like quite a stretch It’s not a stretch, they’ve been talking publicly about their increased Rust usage in Android (among others) for years now. Here’s a 2023 post for example https://security.googleblog.com/2023/10/bare-metal-rust-in-android.html https://security.googleblog.com/2023/10/bare-metal-rust-in-a...
    - arp242 2y ago
      > I'd find more comfort in the "others" that you mentioned, although I don't know who they are. Go, for example, or gRPC, or tons of other stuff.

nixosbestos 2y ago

I rolled my eyes but then I realize you self-replied and actually laughed out loud. Maybe next time do a tiny bit of looking before asserting unsubstantiated statements and then doubling down calling your own unsubstantiated question "serious". Not a serious way to conduct discourse, just tossing that out there.

fragmede 2y ago

It's a loaded question, like "have your stopped beating your wife yet?"

timeon 2y ago

>> I just see drama. > It’s a serious question. Is it?