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With the Rust team falling apart, who is actually long term going to maintain it? I want to use it but I just see drama.
by stonethrowaway 2y ago
With the Rust team falling apart, who is actually long term going to maintain it? I want to use it but I just see drama.
- mynameisash 2y agoWho says the Rust team is falling apart?
- brcmthrowaway 2y agoThe project lead left after being admonished by Theodore T'so
- mardifoufs 2y agoNot sure I'd agree they are falling apart but just to be clear, I think you're referring to the rust Linux team, not the actual rust language team, right?
- stonethrowaway 2y agoNot sure why the downvoting. It’s a serious question. Who is ensuring that this project has a future and isn’t going to collapse tomorrow?
- steveklabnik 2y agoAsserting that a team is collapsing with no evidence will get downvotes. This work is funded by Google and I believe others. So that’s a positive signal towards maintainability. Regardless of a specific person being involved or not, Google has significant Rust components in Android and a vested interest in all this. But also on some level, it’s too early for these questions. Stuff is still an experiment. It could all get removed tomorrow. Once it’s closer to being permanent, then “how do we continue to maintain this” becomes a more important question.
- yazzku 2y agoGoogle funding is a positive signal? https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
- steveklabnik 2y agoThis link is about consumer products, not about technical projects. If you believe Android will be killed soon, sure. I do not.
- yazzku 2y agoAndroid sits at the heart of their mass surveillance network. Rust experiments in the kernel? Seems like quite a stretch between the two to me. I'd find more comfort in the "others" that you mentioned, although I don't know who they are.
- steveklabnik 2y agoSaying Android is bad is irrelevant. It’s an important project for Google. > Seems like quite a stretch It’s not a stretch, they’ve been talking publicly about their increased Rust usage in Android (among others) for years now. Here’s a 2023 post for example https://security.googleblog.com/2023/10/bare-metal-rust-in-android.html https://security.googleblog.com/2023/10/bare-metal-rust-in-a...
- arp242 2y ago
- nixosbestos 2y agoI rolled my eyes but then I realize you self-replied and actually laughed out loud. Maybe next time do a tiny bit of looking before asserting unsubstantiated statements and then doubling down calling your own unsubstantiated question "serious". Not a serious way to conduct discourse, just tossing that out there.
- fragmede 2y agoIt's a loaded question, like "have your stopped beating your wife yet?"
- timeon 2y ago>> I just see drama. > It’s a serious question. Is it?
- arp242 2y agoThe Rust team is not "falling apart". The article specifically says it's not. One person left. Many people leave projects for many different reasons.
- renewiltord 2y agoSame thing will happen as happened when OpenBSD team fell apart.
- kelnos 2y agoOne person left. "Falling apart" is a bit hyperbolic, no?