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I think you're making the wrong distinction here, it's not about whether the result came from a known or unknown paper mill in that country. It's about whether
by pragmomm 2y ago
I think you're making the wrong distinction here, it's not about whether the result came from a known or unknown paper mill in that country. It's about whether there is a culture of fraud and fakeness that permeates that country and that scientific community. And there is certainly a culture of fraud and fakeness in China, from tofu dreg buildings, to fake food and gutter oil, to drugged olympic athletes, to fudged economic numbers.
Let me give just one example of how prevalent the culture of fakeness has pervaded through China. Nowadays, because the economic decline, people are eating out less, and restaurants are getting less and less traffic. Therefore, they needed to cut costs. So some restaurants started using pre-packaged food, and just heat those up in the microwave and serve them up as cooked dishes. Because other restaurants couldn't survive without doing the same cost-cutting behavior, they've all started doing the same things. Thus, most restaurants in China are now serving pre-packaged food. And there's a backlash from consumers, so now even less people eat out. And then restaurants started using expired pre-packaged food. Oh, and because expired pre-packaged food has a tendency to cause diarrhea, some restaurants in China have started adding Loperamide into the dishes to prevent diarrhea.
Fake it until you make it out of China mentality.
- ein0p 2y agoSince when is this kind of blatant racism acceptable on this site? “Gutter oil”? Wtf is wrong with you?
- pragmomm 2y agostill happening in China in 2024 Foreigner caught a Chinese couple scooping up gutter oil https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1eo2wmy/foreigner_caught_a_chinese_couple_scooping_up/ https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1eo2wmy/...
- ein0p 2y agoThere are 1.4 billion people in China. You’re showing me a couple of people doing who knows what in a clip of unknowable provenance. This is not the hill to die on, my man
- pragmomm 2y agoObviously there are way more occurrences than this video. Also, the lady in the video acted like nothing was wrong and admitted no shame, which means there is a culture/common practice of using gutter oil.
- ein0p 2y agoWikipedia says that today this carries the penalty of decades in prison and a suspended death sentence. I very much doubt it’s as prevalent a practice as you suggest. To suggest that this crime is a “normal part” of Chinese culture is simply wrong.
- pragmomm 2y agoThere was no penalty/death sentence for the recent public incident of the oil tank truck that was found transporting both toxic industrial oil and cooking oil, without cleaning in between. Which apparently was a wide-spread practice, as confirmed by netizens. Instead the officials just hand waved and said it's an isolated incident, and they're looking into it. And no news of it since.
- resoluteteeth 2y agoRestaurants in china are legally required to use oil traps like that and the oil must be removed. It is usually reprocessed to be used for industrial purposes. The fact that those people were possibly possibly illegally collecting it to sell to a company that reprocesses it does not at all mean that it's going to be used as "gutter oil" in restaurants any more than someone collecting empty cans from a trashcan means they're going to reuse those cans in a restaurant. Gutter oil used to be a major issue in China but the Chinese government cracked down on it a lot a few years ago. I recommend watching this video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43wJ7YyWzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43wJ7YyWzM
- Chris2048 2y agoThey said "cultural", you decided to insert "race", presumably to stoke more outrage.