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But a lighter sentence could, for example, range from no jail time to rates of less than 100 percent of the expected sentence in the case of non-cooperation. Th
by borroka 2y ago
But a lighter sentence could, for example, range from no jail time to rates of less than 100 percent of the expected sentence in the case of non-cooperation. The prosecutor's recommendation of no jail time is frankly disappointing. She may not have been the main offender, but she committed the crimes.
What would her sentence have been if she did not cooperate (and suppose other did or there was enough evidence anyway)? Fifteen+ years? Two years is not a picnic, but given the alternative, it looks like it is.
- voxic11 2y ago> Prosecutors did not recommend a specific sentence for Ms. Ellison It was her lawyers that asked for no jail time. Not the prosecutors.
- borroka 2y agoAccording to the article I read (CNBC), "The prison term was significantly stiffer than the recommendation by the federal Probation Department that Judge Lewis Kaplan sentence Ellison, who had run the hedge fund Alameda Research, to three years of supervised release, with no time at all behind bars". In the same article, "Assistant U.S. Attorney Danielle Sassoon urged Kaplan for leniency". It seems to me, as prosecutors and Probation Dept talk to each other, that all, except Kaplan, agreed on no prison time for Ellison.
- AlbertCory 2y ago> The prosecutor's recommendation of no jail time is frankly disappointing It could have been disingenuous. Maybe they knew the judge wouldn't go for it. As for her not cooperating: would you rather SBF skate free? I don't know what the case against SBF would have looked like without her, and I suspect you don't, either.
- borroka 2y agoYou suspect well, I do not. Let me ask you another question for which you and I do not know the answer. Since she got 2 years in prison, she was not promised (i.e. she did not sign any binding agreement with the prosecutor, beyond "we will do our best to get you a lenient sentence") not to go to prison. Why then not a sentence of 5, 10, 15 years in prison?
- AlbertCory 2y agoI don't know how that all plays out, to be perfectly honest.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoWhy not just nail her to the wall after the fact? Is integrity of the prosecutor a valid answer?
- AlbertCory 2y agoIn almost any profession, your word is all you have. Welsh on someone, and no one will trust you anymore.
- borroka 2y agoI did not say or believe that the prosecutor lied or they should renege on their word, far from it. I said that if she got two years, it means that the agreement Ellison-DA was not for no prison time in exchange for cooperation. Thus I asked why two years and not five or ten of whatever time under the expected sentence time in case of no cooperation.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoThe prosecutor doesn't pick a time, and cant promise it. The judge selects the sentence. This judge thought 2 years was reasonable after the fact, and was not bound to it.
- AlbertCory 2y agoRead who I was replying to (which was not you). They said, "Is integrity of the prosecutor a valid answer?" Yes it is.
- djur 2y agoThe prosecutor didn't recommend no jail time. Ellison's lawyers did. Also, in addition to jail time, she's going to owe a huge sum of money. The feds are going to have a claim on any money she makes for the rest of her life. For better or worse (I think a little of both), long max sentences exist in the US criminal justice system to allow rewarding cooperators and to threaten non-cooperators alike.