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Replying to myself, I found 1899 paper which is more explicit on the matter, and shows how Rayleigh was not all that certain about the results: The compari
by zokier 2y ago
Replying to myself, I found 1899 paper which is more explicit on the matter, and shows how Rayleigh was not all that certain about the results:
The comparison of the present with former results throws
an interesting light upon molecular magnitudes. It has been
shown (Proc. Roy. Soc. March 1890) that the thickness of
the film of olive-oil calculated as if continuous, which
corresponds to the camphor-point, is about 2.0 μμ while
from the present curves it follows that the point at which
the tension begins to fall is about half as much, or 1.0 μμ
[...]
If we accept this view as substantially true, we
conclude that the first drop in tension corresponds to a com-
plete layer one molecule thick, and that the diameter of
a molecule of oil is about 1.0 μμ
XXXVI. Investigations in Capillarity:—The size of drops.—The liberation of gas from supersaturated solutions.—Colliding jets.—The tension of contaminated water-surfaces
If we assume that the "about 2.0 μμ" value is just the previously mentioned 1.63 nm value rounded up, then that throws a wrench into the story, in particular this bit from blog post
> Rayleigh’s final result was 1.63 nanometers. Olive oil is mainly composed of fat molecules called triacylglycerols, and we now know that they measure about 1.67 nanometers in length, implying that Rayleigh’s “primitive” estimates were off by just 2 percent
is more of a numerological coincidence, the actual estimate that Rayleigh gives is half of that!
- tech_ken 2y ago> is more of a numerological coincidence, the actual estimate that Rayleigh gives is half of that! I definitely thought so too, in the first paper the 1.67 isn't even really his primary guess so definitely some presentist bias in the OP
- bialpio 2y agoFrom the paper: "The thickness of oil required to take the life out of the camphor movements lies between one and two millionths of a millimetre, and may be estimated with some precision at 1’6 micromillimetre." Looks like a primary guess to me, even if the table lists more data points.
- tech_ken 2y agoOh nice my bad, I was just looking at the tables