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Debian losing contributions is a fairly big deal because Debian and its derivatives represent the most popular Linux distributions. You'd think Canonical would

Debian losing contributions is a fairly big deal because Debian and its derivatives represent the most popular Linux distributions. You'd think Canonical would contribute more... I think there's also a larger conversation of what folks really need from a Linux distribution in the year 2020+. Desktop Linux is fairly needy but AppImage and flatpak have largely fixed that.

develatio 2y ago
> You'd think Canonical would contribute more Context: I have +10y exp with Python, Linux (some packaging, kernel hacking, sys admin / SRE), C, several cloud providers (AWS, Azure, Hetzner, DO, OVH), etc... Applied to a Canonical position (Senior Python Eng + required Linux exp + nice to have cloud knowledge), got rejected automatically because I don't have a university degree. Tweeted about it, asking for some feedback. Tons of replies, same opinion: Canonical are plain elitists. Don't expect them to contribute.
- intelVISA 2y ago
  I'd rather work fast food than Canonical, you dodged a bullet.
- marcolussetti 2y ago
  Isn't Canonical the one that hires bases on High School performance?
rlpb 2y ago
> You'd think Canonical would contribute more... How much is enough? Did you know that significant contributions to Debian are made by Canonical employees who are Debian Developers being paid to do so? As a recent example, Debian's recent 64 bit time_t transition was driven by Canonical employees. Canonical employees continue to maintain various packages in Debian, but it's not obvious because they use their Debian "hats".
mass_and_energy 2y ago
Do we want canonical that involved in our beloved Debian? Look at what they did to glorious Ubuntu, if they think Snap is a good addition to any OS then should we listen to their input?
- bee_rider 2y ago
  Canonical was with Ubuntu from the beginning, so if it was ever glorious, that was partially their doing.
- jcastro 2y ago
  > that involved in our beloved Debian? They've been there for 20 years already.
- bregma 2y ago
  What percentage of Debian Developers are Canonical employees? 40%? 60%?
Rinzler89 2y ago
The beauty of Linux is that we can have a new popular Linux distro. It doesn't have to be Debian based. It can be Opensuse, Fedora or Arch based.

develatio 2y ago

> You'd think Canonical would contribute more Context: I have +10y exp with Python, Linux (some packaging, kernel hacking, sys admin / SRE), C, several cloud providers (AWS, Azure, Hetzner, DO, OVH), etc... Applied to a Canonical position (Senior Python Eng + required Linux exp + nice to have cloud knowledge), got rejected automatically because I don't have a university degree. Tweeted about it, asking for some feedback. Tons of replies, same opinion: Canonical are plain elitists. Don't expect them to contribute.

intelVISA 2y ago
I'd rather work fast food than Canonical, you dodged a bullet.
marcolussetti 2y ago
Isn't Canonical the one that hires bases on High School performance?

rlpb 2y ago

> You'd think Canonical would contribute more... How much is enough? Did you know that significant contributions to Debian are made by Canonical employees who are Debian Developers being paid to do so? As a recent example, Debian's recent 64 bit time_t transition was driven by Canonical employees. Canonical employees continue to maintain various packages in Debian, but it's not obvious because they use their Debian "hats".

mass_and_energy 2y ago

Do we want canonical that involved in our beloved Debian? Look at what they did to glorious Ubuntu, if they think Snap is a good addition to any OS then should we listen to their input?

bee_rider 2y ago
Canonical was with Ubuntu from the beginning, so if it was ever glorious, that was partially their doing.
jcastro 2y ago
> that involved in our beloved Debian? They've been there for 20 years already.
bregma 2y ago
What percentage of Debian Developers are Canonical employees? 40%? 60%?

Rinzler89 2y ago

The beauty of Linux is that we can have a new popular Linux distro. It doesn't have to be Debian based. It can be Opensuse, Fedora or Arch based.