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But this isn't about books children want to read at all, is it? Do these concerned parents (censors) want to take off Harry Poters and The Hobbit and similar i

But this isn't about books children want to read at all, is it? Do these concerned parents (censors) want to take off Harry Poters and The Hobbit and similar in demand youth literature? Doesn't look like it at all. As far as I can tell, kids aren't interested in most of the weird shit what's getting restricted from the school library. The only people that are concerned about the books in question being restricted in public schools are ideologues that want to peddle their weirdo stuff to kids.

ryandrake 2y ago
Can you explain in some more detail the specific “ideologies” and “weirdo stuff” you think librarians are peddling in schools? You’re alluding to something specific but for some reason won’t say it? Also, I know several parents who would love to see Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings banned because they say they are about the Occult and demons and Anti-Christian and so on. Many are vocal about it at school board meetings. I don’t think librarians should give in to these bullies, either.
- Johanx64 2y ago
  >Also, I know several parents who would love to see Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings I'm sure there are. But was Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings restricted? Or literature kids want to read? No? Then you don't have an argument. If the books that were restricted are of no interest to kids, nor does their parents want their kids exposed to it by ideologically driven librarians or teachers, I don't see any issue in it whatsoever.
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    You still haven’t given any specific examples of the so-called ideology you believe librarians are peddling. Keep in mind that school libraries can allow books about World War 2 without promoting (or peddling) war. Also, Harry Potter constantly tops lists of most-banned books in libraries.
    - helij 2y ago
      That's interesting. What is the reason Harry Potter books are being banned?
    - BrandoElFollito 2y ago
      > Also, Harry Potter constantly tops lists of most-banned books in libraries. In the US you mean? This is a thing to ban books in libraries, especially ones that sell well?
    - Johanx64 2y ago
      If a person wants to desperately peddle books with sexual content to underaged kids (that have no interest in seeking those particular books themselves), against their parents will and consent and then get very upset when parents do restrict this content in a public school library no less, then surely I'd say they follow a weird ideology. >Also, Harry Potter constantly tops lists of most-banned books in libraries. Well, then that is clearly bad. The article does clearly communicate and wear it's convictions on it's sleave about what it is concerned about, and I see no mention of Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings there.
      - ryandrake 2y ago
        What is the harm in making a book available to check out? You keep using the word “peddle” as if librarians are promoting these so-called controversial books over others. If you actually visit a school library (I do because I have a kid in grade school), you’ll see almost always it’s the already-popular books that get into the choice spots in the front of the library. The kid who wants to read about puberty has to search the bowels of the library basement for it. I think the people who spend the most time in school libraries must be the Book Banners, desperately looking high and low for something to be outraged about. The only weird ideology youve cited so far is “human sexuality” which is neither weird nor an ideology.
        hobotime 2y ago
        >>What is the harm in making a book available to check out? Children should not be exposed to sexual material at an early developmental age. That's sexual child abuse.
bryanlarsen 2y ago
Kids will definitely request most of the "weird shit" books that make the news simply because they are banned. They're not interested in "weird shit", but very interested in looking at anything parents don't want them to look at.

ryandrake 2y ago

Can you explain in some more detail the specific “ideologies” and “weirdo stuff” you think librarians are peddling in schools? You’re alluding to something specific but for some reason won’t say it? Also, I know several parents who would love to see Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings banned because they say they are about the Occult and demons and Anti-Christian and so on. Many are vocal about it at school board meetings. I don’t think librarians should give in to these bullies, either.

Johanx64 2y ago
>Also, I know several parents who would love to see Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings I'm sure there are. But was Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings restricted? Or literature kids want to read? No? Then you don't have an argument. If the books that were restricted are of no interest to kids, nor does their parents want their kids exposed to it by ideologically driven librarians or teachers, I don't see any issue in it whatsoever.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  You still haven’t given any specific examples of the so-called ideology you believe librarians are peddling. Keep in mind that school libraries can allow books about World War 2 without promoting (or peddling) war. Also, Harry Potter constantly tops lists of most-banned books in libraries.
  - helij 2y ago
    That's interesting. What is the reason Harry Potter books are being banned?
  - BrandoElFollito 2y ago
    > Also, Harry Potter constantly tops lists of most-banned books in libraries. In the US you mean? This is a thing to ban books in libraries, especially ones that sell well?
  - Johanx64 2y ago
    If a person wants to desperately peddle books with sexual content to underaged kids (that have no interest in seeking those particular books themselves), against their parents will and consent and then get very upset when parents do restrict this content in a public school library no less, then surely I'd say they follow a weird ideology. >Also, Harry Potter constantly tops lists of most-banned books in libraries. Well, then that is clearly bad. The article does clearly communicate and wear it's convictions on it's sleave about what it is concerned about, and I see no mention of Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings there.
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      What is the harm in making a book available to check out? You keep using the word “peddle” as if librarians are promoting these so-called controversial books over others. If you actually visit a school library (I do because I have a kid in grade school), you’ll see almost always it’s the already-popular books that get into the choice spots in the front of the library. The kid who wants to read about puberty has to search the bowels of the library basement for it. I think the people who spend the most time in school libraries must be the Book Banners, desperately looking high and low for something to be outraged about. The only weird ideology youve cited so far is “human sexuality” which is neither weird nor an ideology.
      - hobotime 2y ago
        >>What is the harm in making a book available to check out? Children should not be exposed to sexual material at an early developmental age. That's sexual child abuse.

bryanlarsen 2y ago

Kids will definitely request most of the "weird shit" books that make the news simply because they are banned. They're not interested in "weird shit", but very interested in looking at anything parents don't want them to look at.